00:01:13 Angela Stringhini: Hello Joanna, Hello Everyone! 00:01:30 Barbara Daughter: Good morning everyone! 00:01:42 Joli Knott: Hi everyone± 00:09:16 Alta Felix: I felt really bad asking my friend to sign an NDA but I did it. I love the vision that I am birthing and it would be a disservice for me not to protect it. 00:09:20 Joli Knott: This might sound weird, but sipping water always helps me reconnect to the body.... 00:09:22 Sophie Jane Hardy: I launched the webinar for a new course I’ve created!! First time in 3 years that i’ve put something ‘out there’! Feels vulnerable, exciting, stretching. 00:09:24 Emily Golden, MCC (she/her): I led my first in person breathwork class. 00:09:43 amy palatnick: i went latin dancing for the first time since the pandemic started. i was so nervous and thought i would have forgotten all the steps. it felt AMAZING! 00:09:43 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I have scheduled massive support for myself this week and I'm really enjoying how that feels. 00:09:44 Janná Giles: I committed to a theme for this summer (which is challenging for me): Do Less & Rest More 00:09:51 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): Insight on the fear of hurting 00:09:53 Angela Stringhini: I am celebrating that I had enough of doing things that do not serve me and I am almost kicking the bucket and just giving up! I am having the courage to do it.. 00:09:55 Aiyana McKenzie: I asked friends to do a dance party with me to uplift m e when I was in the depths. We had an AWESOME dance experience together. 00:10:03 Barbara Daughter: Consistently getting 7+ hours of sleep 00:10:13 Rachel Alva (she/they): I saw that a jealousy I was experiencing was an invitation to pick up armor that I’d prefer not to carry. I’m enjoying this season of feeling lighter. 00:10:17 Deva Munay: I’m going to couple’s therapy and working on using new communication tools with my beloved. We are going on a three week trip to NYC and Italy 🇮🇹. We are talking about next big steps together, living together, marriage. It’s so exciting and all new territory for me as well! It makes my heart twitter! ♥️ 00:10:19 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I took a day and did NO work or email checking and just made space for play with my kiddo! And then landed a speaking gig that same day by showing up at the farmer's market! 00:10:21 Lisa Scott: pausing before I say yes.... 00:10:23 Carla Sanders: Held an amazing retreat for the client who signed up. 00:10:47 Jen Youngquist: I created a new program and already sold two spots 00:11:08 Nell Reid: Helped my sister and mom navigate an argument and was recognized for my skill in this area! Also decluttered multiple areas in my house and have let myself be slow and restful this week! 00:11:30 Essie Richards she/her: I rejuggled our imploding family schedule so I can make the lives - so happy 00:11:36 Aiyana McKenzie: My son told me (with beautiful tears) that I’m the most awesome person he knows and he aspires to be like me. He said he watches me grow and the way I treat people and he has taken big steps to grow as he models my behavior. This is a big celebration for me! 00:11:37 Barbara Daughter: Awesome shares everyone! 00:12:13 Sophie Jane Hardy: I’m turning video off because I’m tired and I’d like to lie in bed and lazyily take notes :) 00:12:40 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): How I love reading all of your celebrations - honoring all of you, amazing humans! 00:13:03 Runa Link: Celebrating finding more balance in my life. Feeling relaxed and getting rest, making new connections and somehow catching up on the course with a full work schedule all at once while feeling zen ;) 00:13:37 MaryAnn: I’m celebrating that took a stand for myself in a relationship in a bold way, instead of staying silent, which is what I would have done in the past, for fear of being rejected. By speaking my truth in a respectful way, I got what I needed and though it felt like a risk, in the end it also strengthened the relationship. I felt so free and light afterward. 00:14:21 Aiyana McKenzie: Such wonderful celebrations! 00:26:02 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): • How were you given or not given permission as a child to vision for yourself? 00:26:04 MaryAnn: As a biz coach, it's been so hard over the years to witness clients who have had that huge let down from other biz coaches who overpromise and don't deliver. It really hurts people. 00:27:02 Carla Sanders: It was 100% “god’s will not mine” Visioning was not a concept in my family culture or community. In fact, if I had a vision it may have been Satan. 00:27:23 Sophie Jane Hardy: I was always supported and encouraged to dream, but only within the parameters my parents understood or set up for me. 00:27:25 Barbara Daughter: I had permission to vision career options but not much else. 00:27:38 Lisa Scott: I was always shut down 00:27:41 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): The idea of having permission to vision wasn’t openly present, there were ideas of “shoulds" to choose between 00:27:42 Joli Knott: Realistic goals had to be respectable and money-making… 00:27:50 Sarah Van Hoy: I felt like my visions became contaminated by my parents unrealized dreams 00:27:52 Aiyana McKenzie: I was given permission to envision heaven being wonderful after life (if I was good enough), but I was trained to not envision anything for myself in this life 00:27:56 Alta Felix: I was allowed to dream big when I was little but as I got older, I was told I needed to get more serious. 00:28:01 Melissa Kozma: Sophie Jane spoke to my comment perfectly! 00:28:07 MaryAnn: I was given permission at a surface level, with lip service. “Women can do anything…you can do anything.” But in reality, whenever I shared a vision that wasn't what my parents wanted/understood/their own experience, I was shushed and invalidated. 00:28:10 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I knew I was going to college and would be the first person in my family, so I was always visioning differently 00:28:14 Jacque Alderete: It wasn't really a conversation in my family, it was often shut down and it had to be "realistic" for it to be considered 00:28:16 Jen Youngquist: I could vision and I did, I never shared because nobody wanted to hear them 00:28:39 MaryAnn: @Sophie…that was my experience too. 00:28:40 amy palatnick: i put a lot of pressure on myself. i don’t think it really came directly from my family. just expectations in the background 00:28:54 Angela Stringhini: I had the Karma word coming up sometimes, but if my karma was not that, nothing could be done… 00:29:13 Erin Borbet: I was always given permission to dream and even explore avenues beyond my parent's comfort zone but there was always the understanding that "it might not work out" because being off the beaten path…waiting for the other shoe to drop… 00:29:17 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I was a big dreamer - one parent was supportive and one wanted to be sure I didn't go too sure of myself... and for all family, wasn't supposed to break the rules or go beyond my conservative upbringing (and my vision was far away from that…) 00:29:34 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): • What did you learn or not learn from your parents about having a vision? 00:29:36 Vlada Tomova: I was only allowed to choose from a list of options that my family approved 00:29:49 Maria's iPad (2): I was allowed to dream big and think big but never a pressure to realize. 00:29:57 AJ Frenzel: I was given permission to envision career/ jobs and where I might live as an adult. However as a middle child I was not encouraged to create more short term visions nor to have ambition to act toward reaching any vision. 00:30:13 Erin Borbet: Dare to dream but not “too" big - keep it "reasonable” 00:30:23 MaryAnn: I observed that not having a vision and "doing what was expected" or taking the “default path" led to huge dissatisfaction in life. I made different choices because I didn't want that same experience. 00:30:24 Brenda: There wasn't time money or space to have a vision. I learned to not ask because it probably wasn't possible and Mom or other adults felt bad if she/they couldn’t provide it 00:30:30 Lisa Scott: It was for other people. keep within what we can afford 00:30:32 Janná Giles: It was wonderful for creativity, but I was modeled that you have to be “realistic” 00:30:34 Jen Youngquist: I learned it was 100% up to me what I wanted to do, but I wasn't going to be supported - even if it was what they wanted. I had to make it happen alone. I still do this today 00:30:35 Aiyana McKenzie: I was also told, “God’s will, not mine” and taught is was very bad to envision something for myself and could lead to eternal damnation (funny and not funny) 00:30:38 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): o I could have it but wasn’t allowed to “break the rules” – you play nice, smile, act within the boundaries of the place and the people… don’t go beyond what’s known 00:30:38 Layne Mosler: What’s the difference between a vision and a goal? 00:30:39 Jacque Alderete: I learned from my parents that having a vision is only helpful when it comes to schooling choices and pursuing the "right" values (that were instilled in our family culture). Everything else is "pie in the sky" 00:30:42 Annelise Pesa: Conditioned vision: lawyer, doctor, as there was my families professions, was not allowed to be free with it 00:30:51 Alta Felix: I need to content with what I already have and should only pursue what is "needed". 00:30:59 Sophie Jane Hardy: I don’t remember either of them ever talking about their visions or dreams. There was a definite ‘don’t get too big for your breeches’ vibe. Humility was encouraged. I got the sense that a woman’s dream should be to marry well and have kiddos and be happy with that. 00:31:08 AJ Frenzel: I was sometimes told that my visions were wrong. Too hard, too much work. = I'm not smart enough. 00:31:11 Nell Reid: Was always told I could do “anything”. But also well-traveled path/sensible/money-making/responsible was encouraged 00:31:24 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): • How has dominant culture allowed or not allowed you to vision for yourself? 00:31:29 Carla Sanders: My parents reacted to the crisis of the moment, or the challenge of the moment. In farm years, it could be weather related or crop failure. Later years it was economic factors. 00:31:29 Kendra Woods: Visioning and dreaming were not topics that we spoke about in my household. It was get a good education, get a good job and retire one day. Dreams were seen as lofty, head in the clouds kind of thinking that only those who were privileged could afford to do. Dreaming and visioning was not “safe". 00:31:57 Tina Dowdy: my dad, through example, showed me how to be resourceful to achieve a goal, but never practiced visioning. 00:32:00 Carla Sanders: My mother lived for retirement and social security and medicare. Is that a vision? 00:32:20 Angela Stringhini: It was hard work to get what I want and I need to work hard, be resilient, and be focused.. but then if my. karma was not to achieve my vision, then I would not get to my vision anyway and I would just get the experience and that was good enough 00:32:37 Angela Stringhini: can you ask agin? 00:32:44 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): My dad had inner and outer visions that came into being AND his family cut him off, ie go for what you envision and loose family 00:33:02 Vlada Tomova: From my parents examples I learned that big dreams are unattainable! and even damaging and life threatening!! 00:33:31 Tina Dowdy: dominant culture puts limitations on what you should or should not want 00:33:32 Jen Youngquist: Totally has allowed based on my privilidge, I feel 00:33:34 Layne Mosler: Dominant culture did/does not allow for visions unrelated to status, power, money. 00:33:50 Joli Knott: I remember working in the male-dominated financial markets many moons ago and going around to ask for a more competitive salary/more clients/etc and being told that I was “getting ahead of myself”—argh! 00:33:51 MaryAnn: I don't feel like dominant culture allowed or disallowed...but it did mean that the majority of people in my life who had the dominant cultural perspective (go to school, get a good job, etc.) fundamentally didn't understand that I wanted something very different than that. It helped me to learn over time to build a community who shared my "alternative” vision and life path. 00:33:54 Aiyana McKenzie: Dominant culture introduced the idea that I could go to college and I could have goals and aspire to something more 00:33:55 Alta Felix: I can only dream as big as my income or time allows. At this time I am fully dependent on an employer that demands 50 hours of my time for an income that only sustains us. 00:34:23 Kendra Woods: Dominant culture tells a woman like me that I need to put my head down and work hard. The message is that it's unrealistic to achieve what I would ultimately desire. In Corporate many of the doctor's that I worked with were shocked that a "woman like me" would be so educated and managing multi-million dollar medical practices. 00:34:26 Sophie Jane Hardy: That last question feels really important, and is showing me new things I need to see… I feel i’ve been given free reign to vision whatever I wanted as a white woman born in one of the richest countries of the world… that I had a right to dream as big as I liked. 00:35:23 Sarah Van Hoy: I always visioned things that were farther ahead of where culture was at … I was told in 1984 that “there are no health effects from yoga …” and then in 1992 “what do you mean by integrative mental health?” It felt like a lot of extra work! 00:35:37 Janná Giles: Dominant culture has modeled the belief that you have to work “hard” to be successful or reach a vision. My parents modeled this by working so hard that their bodies would get injured. 00:35:45 Carla Sanders: I was raised to be a farm wife in an era that was disappearing culturally and economically. Came of age in 2nd wave of Feminism, which changed the ideas of who and what and how I could be… but I didn’t know how. I had privileges my parents didn’t and they worked to give me… but without a vision, I did not know how I fit in. 00:36:08 Deva Munay: Our power is out today — so I’m in limited cellular connection. I remember being stifled — wanting to be an astronaut or president of the United States and I felt that it was a “cute” idea but not realistic. 00:36:32 Aiyana McKenzie: Those are incredible visions, Deva! 00:36:52 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): Dominant culture doesn't give practical skills on how to vision (or am I blind to that now!), yet there is this idea that you can get and become what you want 00:37:01 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): It's interesting to look back. I don't see how I had any limitations on my visions as a child. What a privilege that was! 00:37:13 Aiyana McKenzie: Carla, your sharing and my aha’s from this question are increasing my appreciation for feminism! 00:37:49 Aiyana McKenzie: That is so beautiful, Michelin. Yay! 00:38:23 Joli Knott: I agree @Sidsel—it’s like there should be more of a bridge, but it doesn’t exist…. 00:38:29 Deva Munay: These are all amazing. If someone is able to save the chat and send it to me I’d be so grateful. I am on my phone today … devamunay@me.com 00:38:48 MaryAnn: Switching to my phone…I'll be on the move, but present and listening. 🙂 00:39:08 Carla Sanders: @aiyana, I feel it. Sounds like we had some similar influences. 00:39:08 Melissa Kozma: To my Mom's credit, when I was young and thought I wanted to be a doctor, she said down and blueprinted a map to get there, listing the resources we had and also what was possible. But - visioning outside of the academic path was not considered or taken seriously - my choices were 'limited'. 00:39:20 Barbara Daughter: @Anna - one of my favorite paintings is titled “Radiating Love” so I love your sweatshirt! 00:39:20 Angela Stringhini: I totally resonate with you Anna, thank you for sharing it.. 00:39:26 Barbara Daughter: And thanks for your share! 00:39:28 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): @Joli - yes, otherwise we're bound to fail…! 00:39:29 Nell Reid: I so feel that @Anna! 00:39:32 Lisa Scott: I resonate with what you are saying Anna! 'certainly way to live life to be successful' 00:39:33 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I relate very much to this, Anna. 00:39:35 Tina Dowdy: love your share Anna 00:39:36 AJ Frenzel: @Deva - So agree. And the chat gets posted with the recordings! 00:40:08 Deva Munay: Awesome—thanks AJ! 00:40:28 Carla Sanders: OMG. I just remember I wanted to be an Architect, but when it came time to go to college, the math freaked me out. So art it was. My family had no idea what an artist was. 00:40:37 Aiyana McKenzie: “True visioning is a revolutionary act.” Love that 00:41:17 Brenda: The statement “True visioning is a revolutionary act” brought tears to my eyes. 00:41:32 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I’ve been totally allowed to vision, and it was encouraged. But my vision often didn’t fit that of dominant culture, or my family rules. After college, I wanted to go work in less developed countries – and it was completely rejected by my family. I didn’t want a big money job or a husband. In moments, I was told that I was making choices to reject them and where I came from, because I wanted to work with the underserved. But because of my middle class, white privilege, I could do it, get away with it. I've always broken these rules and the expectations - and eventually they came to accept me. But it’s powerful how much dominant culture wants us to stick to the rules! 00:42:11 Aiyana McKenzie: Beautiful, Kelly! 00:42:20 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Yes, Brenda, I love "true visioning is a revolutionary act” - so moving and powerful! 00:42:31 Joli Knott: Love that, @Kelly 💜 00:42:35 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): I'm just remembering the moment I decided what to study - in the sunset driving home from a tour through the pyramids in Cairo, I see how I allowed myself to pause and connect and listen and have inner certainty… feels good to see that! 00:42:35 Aiyana McKenzie: Great question, Barbara! 🙂 00:42:42 Carla Sanders: Wow Kelly. You demonstrate the fear when children buck the system. 00:42:43 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Aiyana and @Joli, thank you 🙏🏼 00:43:42 Joli Knott: @ Sidsel 🤩 00:43:43 Layne Mosler: Oh, Sidsel, what a moment to recall. And how wise you were to pause and bask in that certainty. 00:44:23 Aiyana McKenzie: @Kendra, I get chills when I read your comment. Feeling admiration for you and deep appreciation for who you are and what you are achieving. 00:46:32 Lisa Scott: Sidsel... I adore your share..the moment you paused and connected and mustered your inner clarity at sunset after visiting the pyramids... I see this image 00:46:34 amy palatnick: that’s a relief! i have been so stressed this week about not having a vision. 🙂 00:47:11 Carla Sanders: Visioning freaks me out. Seems like acknowledging simple desire is a prerequisite skill. 00:47:21 Aiyana McKenzie: Yes Sidsel, what an incredible visioning moment! 00:47:34 Joli Knott: Beautifully put @Carla! 00:47:36 Rachel Alva (she/they): Ooh that’s wise, Carla 00:47:46 Carla Sanders: I should say, Freaked me out. I am moving through the mystery to familiarity. 00:49:03 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): Yes, @Layne, @Lisa and @Aiyana, it feels great to reconnect with that bodily sensation of calm knowing. and it gave the grounding to stand up with the reactions of the family 00:49:20 Carla Sanders: I realize that talking vision with clients often brings up linking it to desires. 00:49:54 Barbara Daughter: I agree @Carla 00:50:40 Carla Sanders: Visioning can go to the cognitive space of checklists. 00:50:50 Anna Robinson: As you say that, I am realizing that my own vision isn't clear! I am getting stuck in the actions and goals and then am not sure I really want to move forward with them 00:51:24 Anna Robinson: What was the first principle? I think I missed it. DId anyone catch that? 00:51:51 Joli Knott: Can’t create goals without a comprehensive/coherent vision.... 00:51:51 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): Know difference between a desire and a should 00:52:08 Barbara Daughter: @Anna - Know the difference between a VISION and a GOAL 00:52:44 Anna Robinson: I have “know the difference between a vision and a goal" and " know the difference between a desire and a should”. i thought there was one before that…? 00:52:44 Barbara Daughter: I think DESIRE is more easily identified in the BODY where SHOULD is more in the mind 00:53:06 Kendra Woods: @Barbara great insight!! I resonate with that 00:53:09 Carla Sanders: Your ideal day in your vision is also a crazy method. My ideal day is doing nothing. So the millionaire woman in my vision is reading a mystery in bed and then going swimming. 00:53:12 Joli Knott: Ooooh—that’s a great way of putting it @Barbara! 00:53:26 Barbara Daughter: @Anna - continue to check in with clients on what their vision is while coaching, not just the 1st session 00:53:27 Carla Sanders: Absolutely Barbara. 00:53:30 Layne Mosler: That's interesting, Barbara. 00:53:44 Anna Robinson: @barbara - thank you!!! 00:54:01 Carla Sanders: Body is shut down, so we don’t know our desires. 00:54:10 Jacque Alderete: Desires feel expansive, the should feel contractive in the energy field 00:54:30 Joli Knott: Love that @Jacque 00:54:32 Barbara Daughter: oh yes Jacque! 00:57:38 Kendra Woods: So desires feel really expansive in my body and get me so excited but then the strategy, goals, etc. make this energy feel dense and then that doesn't feel as fun. How do you suggest we can reconcile something like this? 00:58:04 Joli Knott: (Bingo on that for me, too, @Kendra) 00:58:08 Jacque Alderete: Ooh, I LOVE this question Kendra! 00:58:08 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): Yes, @Kendra! 00:59:59 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Kendra, REALLY feeling that as well - thank you for the question. 01:00:46 AJ Frenzel: I've used exercised to try and help clients identify core values. How many core values do you suggest narrowing down to? 01:01:09 Janná Giles: Weeding out our belongings for an overseas move next year 01:01:15 Carla Sanders: Yes, please address Kendra’s question. That’s basic. 01:01:52 Jacque Alderete: Desire: Having a baby, building a sustainable house Should: have a multiple 6-figure business 01:01:54 Tina Dowdy: working on my new signature program that I am so deeply aligned with to help women move through the growing pains of being an entrepreneur 01:02:01 Sophie Jane Hardy: Deep desire: to increase my income so my beloved man feels safe to transition from a corporate career to doing what he loves. Goal: to invite 33-55 people onto my new programme. A should… 01:02:07 Tina Dowdy: Joanna -what was your 2nd question? 01:02:09 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): exploring living in a cohousing community 01:02:10 Janná Giles: Social media is a ” should “ for me. 01:02:22 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Janna, SO with you on social media… 01:02:40 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): o What is one thing you are doing in your life right now that is really more for someone else’s satisfaction than for yours? Why? 01:02:52 Janná Giles: Going through paper files for my husband 01:03:10 Jacque Alderete: Someone else's satisfaction: my day job...to keep the peace and to be able to pay bills 01:03:15 Carla Sanders: These are hard questions. 01:03:16 Tina Dowdy: I totally missed the 2nd question 01:03:29 Deva Munay: Desire: to be in a loving committed long term relationship that leads to marriage and sharing a home together. Should: Be making more money to be financially free and should be doing more to get there. 01:03:32 Aiyana McKenzie: Hard for me too, Carla 01:03:41 Tina Dowdy: oh - sorry - thought that was a 3rd question. lol 01:03:41 Alta Felix: my day job 01:03:54 Melissa Kozma: I'm not 'doing' any SHOULDS right now, but it's the source of much of my ambient guilt and low-level anxiousness running in the background 01:03:56 Carla Sanders: I am noticing my desires and should are tangled up. 01:04:03 Sophie Jane Hardy: really lovely to not be able to think of anything I’m doing for someone else! I’m going to reflect on this more… 01:04:06 Layne Mosler: Same Carla. 01:04:20 Brenda: Excitement about whatever it is 01:04:21 Tina Dowdy: a should does not feel good inside of me 01:04:24 Sophie Jane Hardy: Desire feels expansive, should makes me feel small 01:04:25 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): Shoulds give headache! 01:04:36 Janná Giles: I feel “yes” in my body if it’s a desire 01:04:41 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): Desire - open heart 01:04:49 Aiyana McKenzie: Shoulds feel really stressful. Desires feel delicious 01:04:52 Annelise Pesa: Desire excites me should make me feel I have to its a bit of obligation 01:05:14 Janná Giles: My jaw tightens with a “should” 01:05:29 Joli Knott: Desires make me lose track of time whereas shoulds cause me to procrastinate…. 01:05:34 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): Sometimes there are shoulds that are necessary to get what we desire 01:05:36 Alta Felix: Desire= makes me feel excited. My heart literally starts to warm up and I can feel it spread through my body. Should= is very alive in the back of my throat and it feels like I need more energy to pursue them. 01:05:43 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Joli, love that. 01:05:44 Rachel Alva (she/they): Shoulds come from external sources—Joanna’s question on whose desire it is feels quickly revelatory 01:05:53 Deva Munay: Should’s often have a guilty feeling associated with them versus desires are exciting and sometimes edgy! 01:06:03 Anna Robinson: I am struggling a little bit to identify some shoulds vs desires, because I often feel really connected to my desires in the visioning, but when it comes to taking action towards them I have a lot of resistance. Sometimes it's hard to tell if that is just fear of visibility or discomfort in stretching into my desires, or if I'm creating actions that aren't aligned but I think I should do them to get to where I want to be. 01:06:17 Joli Knott: @Kelly 🙏🏽💙 01:06:27 Rachel Alva (she/they): @Joli, that resonates 01:06:41 Melissa Kozma: Shoulds come with procrastination and resistance for me 01:06:54 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Desire = feels expansive and like it's connected in to the collective energy, very light filled. Should = feels contractive and like energy bound up and confused. 01:07:03 Joli Knott: So glad it’s not just me, @Rachel! 01:07:27 Anna Robinson: I love that, @Kendra. Thank you for putting that into words! 01:07:28 Layne Mosler: I so relate, Anna. 01:07:31 Brenda: Joli -- Love that distinction. Desires make me lose track of time whereas shoulds cause me to procrastinate…. 01:07:31 Joli Knott: Totally agree @Melissa! 01:08:00 Lisa Scott: yes Melissa... loads of procrastination with shoulds 01:08:06 Joli Knott: Yes @Kendra—love this!! 01:08:44 Joli Knott: @Brenda 💚☺️ 01:09:16 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Yes, yes, yes, Kendra! 01:10:58 Aiyana McKenzie: I love your sharing, Kendra! Thank you 01:11:11 Sophie Jane Hardy: Yes, thank you Kendra. I feel this anger alongside you. 01:11:14 Tina Dowdy: desire makes me feel energized whereas the shoulds are the very thing that used to drained me in the past 01:11:30 Carla Sanders: Shrunk into a box, that I keep remaking. Yes. Kendra 01:11:38 Layne Mosler: You are electrifying, Kendra. 01:11:39 Tina Dowdy: *drain me 01:11:40 Barbara Daughter: thank you so much for your share @Kendra 01:11:49 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): Thank you Kendra 01:12:04 Aiyana McKenzie: Wonderful distinction, Joanna— hustling for a short time on purpose because it is needed to attain your value of spaciousness and freedom as opposed to hustling all the time from a place of unawareness. 01:12:07 Nell Reid: Thank you Kendra - love your share. brought tears to me too! 01:12:09 Joli Knott: Such a beautiful share @Kendra 🙏🏽💙 01:13:25 amy palatnick: early on, i figured this out for myself and pledged to follow my bliss (my desires). but it makes me feel like a privileged little bitch sometimes, this “I only do what I want to do” thing. it feels complicated inside, and can be limiting in its own way. Sometimes when it’s only desire, it’s too wide open. I long for the limitations, and need to put them on myself. 01:13:51 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): Hear ya, @Amy 01:13:53 Layne Mosler: how do we distinguish between a should and resistance? 01:14:19 AJ Frenzel: ooh Layne - good one 01:14:33 Barbara Daughter: @amy - as a “rebel” (Gretchen Rubin’s “Four Tendencies”) I rebel against my own desires as well as societal “shoulds” 01:14:39 Melissa Kozma: @amy I relate to that - thanks for articulating 01:15:46 Sophie Jane Hardy: Kendra, thank you so much for voicing this here. I want to create a world where you and all Black women no longer have to spend your energy managing this crap… and are fully supported to dream. Where all the Black girls of the future have free rein to dream as big as they can. 01:15:59 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Amy, I can totally relate. I have found myself strongly rejecting this notion of “you can have whatever you want…” It feels privileged and weird and discounting of real social realities for so many. 01:16:27 Maria's iPad (2): Thank you Amy! Definitely resonates with me. 01:16:51 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): And I also love visioning and creating space for wide open creation - for ALL people… ;) 01:17:08 Angela Stringhini: Joanna could right the book name please? 01:17:16 Vlada Tomova: @Carla - yes, feeling judged how I spend my time!! OOH.. and feeling that the other is in some way jealous of me having allowed myself my lifestyle 01:17:18 Angela Stringhini: sorry i meant write 01:17:18 Kendra Woods: @Barbara and @Layne @Sidel @Nell thank you for witnessing. 🙏🏾 01:18:17 Carla Sanders: Bingo last questions 01:18:38 Barbara Daughter: @Angela - The Magic Lamp by Keith Ellis 01:18:50 amy palatnick: … 01:20:02 Aiyana McKenzie: Amy, thank you for your honest reflections. That is fascinating to me. I have been on the opposite extreme of struggling to ever feel that I can have what I want. I appreciate you and your beautiful openens 01:21:21 Janná Giles: Really fantastic. Thank you @Joanna 01:25:26 amy palatnick: one vision can limit all the others! 01:25:45 Layne Mosler: oof! yes, Amy. 01:26:09 Carla Sanders: Feel the energy. The vision will feel energetically yummy, aligned, authentic as the client speaks it. 01:26:24 Janná Giles: Disillusion / stasis / expansion 01:26:40 Joli Knott: Really feeling this point about understanding what season we/the client is in..... 01:27:10 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I've kept my vision quiet and secrets. Time to unveil! 01:27:10 Annelise Pesa: This last point is a ground breaker about season 01:27:26 Aiyana McKenzie: So much from today! Going to pay attention to the “should’ inside myself and disentangle that with my desires 01:27:35 Sophie Jane Hardy: That privilege strongly impacts our capacity to vision. 01:27:44 Aiyana McKenzie: Also, seeing I am in a season of grief and being in the mystery 01:27:51 Rachel Alva (she/they): One of the gifts I can offer my clients as a coach is helping them distinguish between desires and shoulds 01:28:03 Barbara Daughter: Visioning isn’t a “one and done” process 01:28:28 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): connecting with oneself/making the client connect with themself is a starting point for visioning 01:28:42 Angela Stringhini: Know the client’s season; the difference between goals and vision; a vision based on shoulds and desires. 01:29:11 Kendra Woods: What I am taking away is that I desire to give myself specific time to simply vision and connect with my desires. I'm also excited to support my clients through connecting deeper with their core desires and vision. 01:29:13 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): o If working with clients: go through roster. Are you clear on their vision? Are they clear on their vision? Do you sense their vision has shifted? Are they connected to their vision? How do you want to bring this into the work? 01:29:23 Carla Sanders: Practice with my vision and desire and speak it, and keep believing, and allow it to be evolutionary. 01:29:24 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): So many things I'm taking away today. Reflecting on visioning and how family patterns and dominant culture really influence our visioning... 01:30:04 Lisa Scott: I realised today I have lost my vision and got myself caught up in the shoulds and resistance. 01:30:40 Barbara Daughter: So many great shares from everyone today … really helping me to expand my awarenesses 01:30:46 Lisa Scott: I'm excited to spend time with what it is that I really really want 01:31:13 Joli Knott: Totally @Layne!! 01:31:37 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Yes, Barbara. I agree. I'm taking away the depths of the shares in this group. I appreciate Joanna and all of you so much - and learn from all every single week. Very grateful. 🙏🏼 01:32:19 AJ Frenzel: I realized today that desires for me feel guilty. In this season my desire is to be taken care of. Perhaps to receive the support to allow me the freedom to explore and express my true desire. 01:32:40 amy palatnick: thx everyone, i had a hard time staying connected to both the chat and the live group today, missed a lot. much appreciation for all the engagement! 01:33:06 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I always want to just DO the program. 🙂 (not the marketing and sales page, etc.) 01:33:20 Joli Knott: Me, too, @Kelly! 01:33:29 Brenda: Kelly -- YES! 01:33:56 Anna Robinson: Thank you, Joanna and everyone! 01:34:35 AJ Frenzel: Shoulds pile up. I want to take care of others first - less for making them happy, more for proving to myself that I’m not lazy, that I'm worthy to belong with the amazing people in my circles. 01:35:11 Layne Mosler: Yes, AJ. 01:35:44 Joli Knott: Hear you on this @AJ 01:36:15 Vlada Tomova: One desire I found I was working on from a “should” was having a flat belly 😄 and I could never get myself to actually get to it. But! As I realized how it correlates with health implications at this stage of life, it completely changed my motivation! 01:36:53 Sidsel Nelund (Si-sel - she/her): Vlada - ‘have to’ versus 'wants to’! Amazing 01:37:16 Kendra Woods: This session was so impactful. I enjoyed ALL of your deep honest shares and I enjoyed this conversation so much. Thank you @Joanna 🙏🏾 01:37:20 Alta Felix: Thank you!