00:00:55 Veronica Jensen: Hello everyone! 00:02:53 Kim Saeed: I'm somewhat new in the group, so I am taking it all in... 00:03:55 Layne Mosler: Welcome, Kim! 00:04:23 Wendy: Yes, AJ. It was eye opening for both of us! 00:06:45 Alta Felix: Me too Amy! I absolutely have been loving every interaction so much more. 00:11:37 Aiyana : I apologize for being off camera. I’m loving hearing each of your shares. You are such awesome humans! 00:13:41 Veronica Jensen: Fantastic, Nell! 00:13:45 amy palatnick: yay Nell! awesome. 00:14:02 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Love that, Nell! So rich to reflect that back to her - and how it lightens the load of practitioner... 00:14:23 Barbara Daughter: awesome shares everyone 00:15:09 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): A teacher used to emphasize that if we're working harder than the client, it's time to step back. Love that wisdom. 00:15:38 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Yes, Michelyn, such a great teaching… 00:15:54 Brenda: @Michelyn - yes love that wisdom 00:18:02 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I’m mostly off camera today, but right here and present listening. My kiddo and I are recovering from a brutal flu (grateful to be emerging) so needing to tend to the body and periodically his body needs too 🙂. So happy to be here and hear these beautiful shares! 00:19:05 Sophie Jane Hardy: So glad to hear you and your little one are both feeling better Kelly, that sounds hard. 00:21:06 Emily Golden, MCC (she/her): I say "what has you ask that question?" 00:21:17 Sophie Jane Hardy: I often bounce the question back, and ask them what they think first (though I wish I did that more, and I intend to do it more) 00:22:15 MaryAnn: I do that sometimes, too, Sophie 🙂 00:24:33 Barbara Daughter: I think it’s often a diversion 00:24:55 amy palatnick: “what does your ‘Inner Amy’ say?” 00:25:07 MaryAnn: I like that, Amy! 00:25:08 AJ Frenzel: That was a very common when I worked as a doula. At the beginning it felt flattering - that I was trusted in this roll. It soon became very obvious and important that my opinion or experience is soooo not relevant. 00:25:22 Rachel Alva (she/they): Sometimes I ask and have noticed that others ask when we get trapped in “one right way” thinking 00:27:06 Nell Reid: I have to get off now to do a workshop I signed up for months ago but I’ll catch the rest of the call on the recording. Nice to see you all today! Love being here. :) 00:27:25 Sophie Jane Hardy: Lovely to see you Nell! 00:27:38 Barbara Daughter: 🙂Nell 00:30:58 Rachel Alva (she/they): Will you talk about how to acknowledge what is when the client is feeling a lot of shame? 00:32:56 Carla Sanders: Rachel, super important question. I ditto that question. 00:32:58 Rachel Alva (she/they): I don’t want to validate shame like I would other feelings 00:33:25 Jacque Alderete: can you say that again? 00:34:12 Sophie Jane Hardy: Honouring what is is a tool which helps ensure we don’t bypass our clients, or bring toxic positivity. 00:34:33 Barbara Daughter: I call that “false positivity” 00:35:38 Jacque Alderete: Thanks Sophie! 00:43:18 amy palatnick: I’m highly empathic and tend to feel everything others feel. but generally i’m not scared of others’ feelings, it’s just a ride. 00:44:05 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I'm the opposite--I so love the deepest places that I smile when clients go there, and sometimes that's a problem I have to explain 00:44:19 Veronica Jensen: Speaking from the standpoint of a client, I've absolutely hated when coaches have done the love & light thing to me. Makes me angry, feel completely invalidated, and has me immediately close off and disconnect from them. They don't feel safe to me and worth my vulnerability. 00:44:20 amy palatnick: i have some impatience with long-term stuckness 00:44:25 Kim Saeed: I don't do love and light anymore because most of my coaching clients aren't in a space to receive it...plus, it's referred to in my field as toxic positivity. 00:44:25 Alta Felix: I do and I think it pushes me towards "find the solution" which I am now learning actually gets in the way. 00:44:30 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Michelyn, I get that 🙂 00:44:41 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I’ve found that a couple of my clients have had that toxic positivity directed at them so much, they have taken it upon themselves to self-direct it. Much of our work has been redirecting that impulse and honoring all of what’s showing up, before moving on to how to heal what’s underneath. But I’d love to hear more about how to support clients when they are “love and lighting” themselves? 00:44:51 Veronica Jensen: Michelyn, I feel you on that! 00:44:52 Brenda: Veronica — so agree 00:45:11 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): thanks, Veronica! 00:45:20 Deva Munay, Big Sur: I am totally guilty of being a Love and Lighter and like Barbara’s comment of “false positivity” rather than “toxic positivity” — This is a big one for me to work on. 00:45:30 AJ Frenzel: I have tended toward love and light - light in the sense of levity - especially with my husband. Our energy is so connected that it feels like holding my own boundary. It’s a coping mechanism for my empathic nature 00:45:38 Sophie Jane Hardy: Four years of infertility somehow initiated me into being with others’ grief, pain, anger - I think because I had to spend so much time holding myself through my pain. 00:45:50 aiyana: I am becoming more and more ok with other people’s pain. This has been a big journey for me, partly because I feel the pain of those around me (even on the other side of the planet) and also because I’ve had an intense martyr complex (willing to take on others suffering if it alleviates it for them or could ‘save’ them. I’ve been working on unraveling this ‘complex’ inside myself. 00:46:06 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Veronica, I was reflecting on this very thing this morning. I have some serious anger about times that I’ve experienced that from coaches/ healers, and it’s informed how I work. 00:46:07 Isa Beaulieu (she/her): I have not learned how to hold space for intense emotions without having my nervous system blow apart. 00:47:00 Carla Sanders: I am strong in holding space for the difficult feelings… AND I can be more skilled with seeing my own triggers and filters, and more skilled at supporting them to move through and receive the gifts. 00:47:08 Nell Reid: Feels grounding - expansive 00:47:10 Veronica Jensen: @Kelly, I've been reflecting a lot on that too. I also love your question about how to support clients when they are “love and lighting” themselves 00:47:15 Rachel Alva (she/they): Expansive, present 00:47:23 aiyana: When im consciously doing it with clean boundaries, it feels wonderful and empowering. 00:47:36 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I've been taught to throw my energy behind me when the client needs space. Holding space for a deep feeling means I put my energy forward, toward and into the client's space momentarily 00:47:36 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): grounded and clear vessel 00:47:48 amy palatnick: i’m training myself to stay in my core while i hold space. stay relaxed in my body. 00:48:01 Maya R: Stilling and grounding 00:48:07 Sophie Jane Hardy: Everything goes quiet and sacred when I’m with another person in pain… like being in a temple 00:48:29 Veronica Jensen: I'm feeling my back when I'm holding space for people 00:48:37 Sophie Jane Hardy: Love that Veronica. 00:48:48 MaryAnn: I hadn’t thought about how it feels to me when I hold space for others’ deep pain, but agree with the grounding, calm and expansive feelings others have shared. Seems the opposite of what to expect. Interesting. 00:49:00 Carla Sanders: My body gets warm, and I may get teary eyed, and my heart expands. 00:49:18 MaryAnn: Yes Sophie, like a sacred silence. 00:49:21 Deva Munay, Big Sur: With clients I can do this well and set a container. My primary work with this in doing spiritual healing, using prayers and herbs. I am not as good at it when it comes to holding space for friends that start “spewing” their shitty things, especially after feeling they are on “repeat” mode. 00:49:27 Veronica Jensen: I'm generally able to accept what seem like paradoxes, that things can be shitty and still whole & complete(ly shitty, haha) 00:49:52 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): Parts. a part can be shitty and a part can be complete. this concept is the basis of so much of my client work 00:50:04 Veronica Jensen: Yes! Parts work has been really helpful for me 00:50:38 Carla Sanders: I think whole and complete happens when the shitty stuff comes up. 00:50:53 Alta Felix: I am able to allow myself to go through the difficult experiences with all of its emotions and still support myself through it. 00:51:04 Rachel Alva (she/they): “Delicious dilemma” <3 00:51:13 Veronica Jensen: Totally, @Carla - it doesn't feel like we're holding the whole-ness if only the positive and light things are there 00:51:32 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): So beautifully said, Michelyn. Totally see that. Thank you. 00:54:46 aiyana: @veronica Holding paradox is an area I’m focusing on growing on. That part of my development got stunted in childhood as a protective mechanism. I’d love some of your energy in this area to rub off on me! 🤗 (as in your energy around holding paradox activating that part of myself) 00:54:54 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): Love that, Deva! 00:55:27 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): There's a line between acknowledging negativity and perpetuating it. 00:55:36 AJ Frenzel: It’s been hard for me to hold my own space and allowing for shitty things to be acknowledged by others. 00:55:54 Barbara Daughter: so true Michelyn 00:56:06 Sophie Jane Hardy: Me too AJ - that’s an edge I’ve been working for a while. 00:56:24 Veronica Jensen: @aiyana, sending some of that paradoxical-holding goodness your way! :) i think holding them was actually part of my own protective mechanism so it's a skill i developed 00:57:18 aiyana: @Amy, I’m also practicing being in my core and relaxed in my body while listening to others. It lit me up to read your comment naming that for yourself. 00:57:20 Veronica Jensen: Yes, Deva and Michelyn - that line between acknowledging and perpetuating can feel thin, like the line between empathy and enmeshment 00:57:42 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): absolutely, Veronica. thank you 00:58:13 aiyana: Thank you, Veronica 01:00:58 Brenda: You froze for me 01:01:15 Brenda: And now 01:02:23 amy palatnick: modeling. 01:03:42 aiyana: Leveraging assets and celebrating along the way is, thankfully, a skill I’ve been choosing and practicing for years with others. I can still improve here. The aha for me in this moment is that I desire to become skilled at leveraging my own assets and celebrating myself. This area has been a blind spot for me. 01:04:07 Sophie Jane Hardy: Yes! I’ve had a client telling me they don’t trust me because I celebrated them too much. 01:07:28 Sophie Jane Hardy: My love language is words of affirmation… and I find I often affirm those around me more than they want or need (because I love it so much!). My hubby’s love language is different so he feels uncomfortable when I celebrate him a lot. 01:07:28 melissa k: @Sophie That's an interesting response- did you find out what was behind that for them? 01:07:49 Rachel Alva (she/they): I’m thinking about the kinds of celebrations that have landed most deeply with me—Barbara, you named something that matters for me, too 01:08:10 Deva Munay, Big Sur: Yes Sophie — I relate to that! I love words of affirmation! 01:08:17 Sophie Jane Hardy: I know Melissa. We have a great, long relationship and I was feeling into how we could deepen our work to the next level, and she told me that when I celebrate her, she feels uncomfortable, thinks I’m bullshitting, doesn’t believe me. 01:08:29 AJ Frenzel: And some absolutely DO love that acknowlegment & celebration of You got the mail? Yay you!! Def depends on my perceived current capacity for being human. 01:08:31 Carla Sanders: What about asking the client to celebrate the thing they just mentioned, and then working with what comes up. 01:08:37 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her):  How & how often were you honored and celebrated by your family of origin? 01:08:52 Veronica Jensen: @sophie I can understand the other side; if someone is constantly affirming me I get suspicious, like they're trying to manipulate me, blowing smoke up my ass. I do appreciate it when it feels pointed and genuine 01:09:15 Sophie Jane Hardy: @veronica - yes, that’;s exactly how she felt. 01:09:21 Alta Felix: often! So much so that my older siblings still harbor resentment about it. 01:09:24 aiyana: I wasn’t celebrated and honored by my family of origin. Opposite. 01:09:44 amy palatnick: me too Alta, i was compared to my sister which was difficult 01:10:00 Aafke: I was celebrated in secret by my mom because dad didn’t like those things - very confusing. Being celebrated now causes me a lot of stress 01:10:07 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): celebrated by one side, and put down by the other… two camps and it’s left me with some really important inner dialogue to unwind over the years… 01:10:13 Sophie Jane Hardy: I feel I wasn’t celebrated for who I really am in my family. My big, brilliant, loud brother received a lot of praise and I was jealous. 01:10:15 melissa k: @sophie - Ah, that's what I was wondering, if she was perceiving it as a form of manipulation 01:10:17 Veronica Jensen: In my family I was celebrated for things that felt like traits and not achievements, so I came away with a lot of perfectionism and feeling like I had to constantly live up to this level of who I was supposed to be 01:10:19 Brenda: Birthdays and graduations 01:10:47 Alta Felix: Amy, it Is hard! 01:11:01 AJ Frenzel: It takes me back to 9th grade. I was celebrated for getting my first B after a full year of A’s. That felt really shitty - the A’s were seen as flukes or grade inflation 01:11:03 Maria's iPad (2): Well I’m from Sweden and grew up with the Law of Jante “ you are not better than anyone else” but I experienced love full out 01:11:41 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her):  When you were celebrated, what was the motivation? To be truly supportive of you? To pretend that everything was OK when it really wasn’t? (I call this blowing sunshine up your ass). To pressure you to continue to perform well? To compare you to your siblings or others in your family? Something else? 01:11:57 Brenda: Felt expected - not truly genuine and only for outer things 01:12:05 Janná Giles: My father would say “Good job, but…” 01:12:11 Emily Golden, MCC (she/her): This may sound odd but I have a sense that when I was being celebrated by my parents, it was about them. The good job they are doing raising me. Odd... 01:12:22 MaryAnn: Celebrated in front of other people so my parents could look good. Was often emotionally punished by a parent who felt “outshined.” 01:12:24 Deva Munay, Big Sur: It was a mixed bag. Certain things that I wanted to be celebrated for that could be in competition would be down played, for example, I did an amazing painting that I was so proud of, but my mom thought I had copied it and she being the “artist” of the house didn’t appreciate it. Other parts, getting good grades were celebrated. Being a “hard worker” was celebrated. 01:12:25 amy palatnick: my father was enamored with me, too much. 01:12:32 Annelise Pesa: I was celebrated by my mum if I had traits like her 01:12:52 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): So much about the parents and their self-image, I can relate with that, Emily. 01:12:57 Aafke: Being the model achiever was a way for my parents to affirm for themselves that they hadn’t totally f’d up as parents - wow, what an insight 01:13:00 amy palatnick: yes i relate with that Emily 01:13:02 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Much to do about performance… 01:13:04 Vlada Tomova: I felt I was not celebrated for who I really was .. just to encourage a behavior like 01:13:05 Jacque Alderete: I'm seeing that the only times I was celebrated was about my outer performance, grades, jobs, church, etc. 01:13:06 Sophie Jane Hardy: wow, this surprises me, but I honestly don’t remember being celebrated. 01:13:07 Kim Saeed: I wasn't celebrated much as a child. It was usually obligatory, such as birthdays, Christmas... 01:13:08 Lisa Scott: It was more my parents intention of sling what they feel they should... social conditioning rather than true authentic celebrating of me 01:13:11 Alta Felix: They really celebrated all of my successes at all times- it felt like pure love and honoring of my beingness. My siblings did not receive that same level of love and celebration. 01:13:16 Carla Sanders: Seems that parents tried to celebrate me/us sometimes, but they didn’t have many models. Spare the rod, spoil the child was the culture. Don’t get too big for britches. 01:13:22 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her):  How did you parents or other role models celebrate or not celebrate themselves or their accomplishments? 01:13:32 aiyana: When my father saw someone complement me or he read positive remarks on my tests and papers, he’d take me aside and say, “ they are only praising you to try to make you feel better because you’re so pathetic.” It’s been challenging for me to feel ok with complements. 01:13:49 Brenda: They did not celebrate themselves. They just worked 01:13:59 Sophie Jane Hardy: My mum thought that celebrating is rnnessecary - we just need to ‘get on with it”. Like needing affirmation or enjoying celebration is weak. 01:14:01 aiyana: Parents didn’t celebrate selves Hadn’t thought of this before. 01:14:01 Alta Felix: Throwing parties for any and every occasion! lol my mother was a partier so any reason to celebrate was fully taken advantage of. 01:14:02 Carla Sanders: They did not. Depression era children. Hardworking protestant ethic. Work work work. 01:14:05 Lisa Scott: it was always around alcohol.... 01:14:18 Barbara Daughter: My Mama still says, “self-praise stinks” 01:14:19 aiyana: Alta, that sounds so fun! 01:14:24 Janná Giles: I don’t remember them celebrating 01:14:25 melissa k: My achievements somehow became my Mom's achievements! 01:14:27 AJ Frenzel: I was the “good” kid. No reason to celebrate every little thing, or anything. 01:14:28 Veronica Jensen: I'm realizing my mom never really celebrated herself, but she tried to celebrate me since she never felt celebrated by her own parents 01:14:36 amy palatnick: aiyana ugh 🙁 01:14:41 Deva Munay, Big Sur: We always celebrated birthdays. Cakes and dinner. Not a lot of celebrations in other ways. 01:14:52 Alta Felix: Aiyana- it was!! We were always celebrating something. 01:14:54 Carla Sanders: WE did have celebratory foods and meals. That was socially acceptable. 01:14:59 MaryAnn: One parent complained constantly about not being celebrated by others. Not being celebrated was considered a slight. But this parent was seldom celebrated by her own parents, and actually uncomfortable receiving celebration, even though she craved it. 01:15:06 Kim Saeed: Yes...was told I was acting like a Princess. 01:15:12 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her):  How did role models or authority figures respond to you if you celebrated yourself? 01:15:12 Brenda: They stopped it. 01:15:24 Veronica Jensen: Was told to not boast or be arrogant 01:15:26 Janná Giles: Too big for your britches 01:15:30 Sophie Jane Hardy: It was ignored or frowned upon 01:15:31 amy palatnick: i always have felt supported by authorities 01:15:33 MaryAnn: They expressed resentment and irritation. 01:15:37 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): celebrate myself? What’s that? I was told by one side if someone else celebrated me that it was important I didn’t get too big for my britches 01:15:38 Lisa Scott: yes but.... 01:15:46 Runa: Knocked back down. “Who do you think you are?” Energy…. Shamed for “bragging” 01:15:48 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): too big for my britches, for sure 01:15:55 aiyana: @amy, I’m getting close to being able to laugh about it. I was definitely twisted into odd shakes from my upbringing. 01:15:57 Emily Golden, MCC (she/her): OUCH! just realized that I have a particular way of being with my daughter when she celebrates herself. I feel like I need to educate her on not being too celebratory about herself 01:16:02 Emily Golden, MCC (she/her): that needs to change stat!! 01:16:02 Alta Felix: My siblings always gave me the side eye. They actually like to bring up the fact that I am not as financially successful as they are. 01:16:05 Carla Sanders: So confusing. 01:16:07 Rachel Alva (she/they): It’s interesting to be an adult, seeing how my parents interact with my child when she expresses confidence. It’s like a window into the past. 01:16:16 Carla Sanders: I felt like I needed to be perfect to celebrate 01:16:49 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I'm part of a self-appreciation group and it has changed my life in this area 01:16:52 Deva Munay, Big Sur: I remember telling my mom I thought I “deserved” something for an accomplishment, and she quickly said, “you don’t deserve anything, and if anything good happens it because god gave it to you.” 01:16:56 Aafke: I’m blown away by how charged this seemingly benign topic is for all of us. 01:16:59 Aafke: - 01:17:00 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Yes, @Rachel, I’ve seen so much revealed by watching grandparents with my kiddo. Such a helpful contrast and has helped me clarify how I want to be as parent (differently) - I say this humbly as a parent and daughter 🙂 01:17:10 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her):  How do you receive compliments? 01:17:24 amy palatnick: I usually toss them back quickly, but also have worked to receive them 01:17:25 Brenda: Thank you and appreciate they noticed. 01:17:37 Nell Reid: Get vaguely uncomfortable - like I have to compliment back in some way… to just take it in is selfish or something? 01:17:37 Kim Saeed: I always politely thank people, but I generally don't internalize the compliments. 01:17:38 Veronica Jensen: I'm feeling like I want to hug every one of our inner children right now 01:17:38 aiyana: Learning to celebrate myself feels really uncomfortable —and like an exciting possibility. Interesting to see how ‘icky’ it feels to think of celebrating myself or receiving complete. Time for this to heal! 🌈🔥🦋 01:17:41 melissa k: I can receive compliments from people I trust. Depends on the 'energy' in which they are delivered. 01:17:45 MaryAnn: I receive them well now, but it took years of personal growth to become comfortable owning and receiving compliments. 01:17:46 Carla Sanders: I have been training myself to receive compliments for 20 years. Improving! 01:17:46 Annelise Pesa: I feel a bit embarrassed but I have improved and don’t try to minimise it any longer just say thank you 01:17:58 Sophie Jane Hardy: I breathe them in… sometimes I want to sort of excuse myself for them… it’s just because… but I try to resist that. 01:18:00 Alta Felix: I've been working on just receiving it and sometimes I say "I receive that" out loud to stop myself from ALWAYS complementing back. 01:18:00 Sarah Van Hoy: I feel like I come out to meet or deflect it but I don’t lean back and let it in. 01:18:06 Rachel Alva (she/they): I receive compliments differently based on how much I agree with them..some resonate as true, and they mean a lot to me 01:18:09 Veronica Jensen: I used to be uncomfortable about receiving compliments or laugh or shrug them off, but I'm much more open to receiving and appreciating now 01:18:17 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): OMG--it's awkward because I generally know they are true but don't want to appear egotistical1 01:18:24 Janná Giles: I’ve learned to thank the person, but originally thought one was supposed to say “no it wasn’t that great” 01:18:28 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Veronica, I feel the same! So much here, and so many beautiful inner children! 01:18:35 aiyana: I’ve been working for years to be able to receive complements. I make myself pause and say thank you. Still uncomfortable. 01:18:50 Carla Sanders: My partner has a formula for receiving compliments. I am not going to let that slide anymore. I can feel the Teflon when I celebrate him. 01:19:11 Sophie Jane Hardy: Go Carla - love your clarity there 01:20:25 aiyana: Mamma Gena has women do a practice around receiving complements. When someone compile us you, the practice is to say,” Yes, it’s true!” 01:20:44 Emily Golden, MCC (she/her): Love that! @Aiyana 01:20:45 Barbara Daughter: I love that, Aiyana! 01:20:54 Alta Felix: I love that Aiyana! 01:20:58 Sophie Jane Hardy: Love that Aiyana. A friend of mine practices with, “Yes, I know”. 01:21:24 Joli Knott: Love that, Aiyana! 💜 01:21:25 Nell Reid: @aiyana! I studied with Mama Gena!! 01:21:39 Carla Sanders: @Aiyana, my teacher trained us to say, Yes, I am, thank you. We did circles with appreciation. 01:21:44 Nell Reid: “Thank you. That’s true. :)” 01:21:45 Vlada Tomova: There was a strange situation, where the family at large perceived me as the “favorite” grand daughter, and in fact I did not feel in any special, or seen for who I am at all .. and I feel that perhaps my grandparents refrained from celebrating openly even more in public. However, I never felt truly seen by my family! 01:21:46 aiyana: When my son was 3, I and a group of my friends were watching him play. He stopped, turned to us, and joyfully said, “I know why you’re all looking at me. It’s because I’m PRECIOUS!” 01:22:04 Barbara Daughter: I love that @Aiyana! 01:22:14 Brenda: I’m having compassion for my Grandmother and Mom as they didn’t celebrate or take vacations. I have also worked for years to be able to accept/embrace compliments and celebrations. 01:23:10 melissa k: I often respond with some sort of humour or maybe a self-deprecating joke to balance it out, if I feel uncomfortable - my 'coper' 01:23:22 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Aiyana, Love the Mama Gena reference and the story of your son - just delicious! 01:23:56 aiyana: Thank you, Kelly 🥰 01:23:57 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): And while I’m having lots of love for all of the inner children here, I’m also having lots of love for all of those who brought us into the world… shifting the generational patterns is a beautiful thing! 01:24:12 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Yes, @Brenda! 01:24:27 Veronica Jensen: Yes, @Kelly! So much love for everyone doing the best that they could 01:24:38 aiyana: Yes, it’s “ thank you, it’s true.” I’d written “yes, it’s true” (mamma Gena reference) 01:24:44 Vlada Tomova: Yes @Brenda! My grandmas and mom too .. 01:24:47 amy palatnick: OMG rachel, this is so touching and beautiful! 01:25:09 Veronica Jensen: @aiyana i love that story about your son! little kids are so often great at positive self-talk 01:25:28 aiyana: Thank you, Barbara 🥰 01:25:30 Joli Knott: Hearing you @Vlada when you say you didn’t feel seen by your family 💜 01:25:31 MaryAnn: Rachel, I’ve done something similar in a group of adults. It can be so fun and magical! 01:28:17 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Rachel, thank you for sharing that - such a beautiful process! 01:28:18 Rachel Alva (she/they): @MaryAnn cool! That sounds amazing! 01:29:17 MaryAnn: @Rachel happy to share more about it with you if you’d like. It can be very simple. 01:29:31 Rachel Alva (she/they): I would love to hear! 01:29:50 melissa k: I had a client who won't stop celebrating certain things - which is great, but also puzzling, as it's mentioned every time we speak for a year now. 01:30:17 Veronica Jensen: @MaryAnn and @Rachel, would you be open to posting those in the group? Would also love to hear more about that! 01:30:17 Sophie Jane Hardy: I’m taking away that I may ‘over-celebrate’ with my clients (and close ones) because I love affirmation so much, and I’m responding to a lack of celebration in my childhood. 01:30:33 MaryAnn: @Veronica, yes. 🙂 01:30:38 Carla Sanders: Holding space for shadows. And become masterful at the healing skill of celebrating. 01:30:41 aiyana: I’m consciously committing to practice celebrating in my own life and upping my ability to receive complements 🌈💛 01:30:45 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Thank you so much, Joanna, and all. I’m taking away the generational pieces that might open up receptivity to receiving the celebration - and how to support clients in receiving the celebration 01:31:07 Isa Beaulieu (she/her): Thank you Joanna! Have a wonderful week, Everyone. Thank you for all of your sharing! <3 01:31:31 Barbara Daughter: Take-away: many may have a difficult time accepting compliments or being celebrated. 01:32:04 Veronica Jensen: @melissa, so interesting... what that brings up for me is i wonder if they feel like they're afraid or ashamed they haven't accomplished anything else since then or lately, so focusing on that past accomplishment is a safety cover for not feeling like they've been able to move forward any more? 01:32:06 Vlada Tomova: It am taking away finding the fine balance between being empowering compassion and holding people in the strength, wholeness and completeness .. 01:32:06 Maria's iPad (2): Joanna I realized that US has changed time so I missed almost all of your wisdom but what I heard so far has always been a challenge for for me. I’m so good in celebrating others but not myself. 01:32:28 Vlada Tomova: The shift in energetics in holding space 01:33:08 Sidsel Nelund (she/her): @Maria’s I missed it too! 01:33:13 Vlada Tomova: And how difficult celebrating someone can be! I’ve experienced it!!! 01:33:17 Veronica Jensen: Taking away more reminders of how important energetics are, and how even something that seems light like celebrating can have a lot of heavy history behind it, and how that too needs to be honoreed 01:33:32 amy palatnick: sorry to our non-US friends who missed the call 🙁 01:33:38 MaryAnn: Thank you everyone, for another great call. 🙂 01:33:47 Sidsel Nelund (she/her): Thanks, @Amy:) 01:33:48 Carla Sanders: Bye, everyone. Great topic as ever, Joanna. 01:33:50 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): coaching ain't for sissies! 01:33:52 Veronica Jensen: Appreciating everyone's shares and wisdom today! 01:34:04 Vlada Tomova: I was surprised that celebrating came difficult, and perhaps felt not fully authentic from me on the moment! 01:34:05 Joli Knott: Thanks @ Amy 🙂 01:34:07 Janná Giles: XO🥰❤️✨🙏 01:34:12 melissa k: @Veronica - She's had accomplishments since, but almost obsessed with her weight loss. I'm not sure whether to bring it up or not! But you noted an interesting thought! 01:34:13 aiyana: Thank you!!!