00:00:34 Joli Knott: Hi everyone! 00:00:50 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): Hello all you lovelies! 00:00:52 Sophie Jane Hardy: So good to be with you all tonight. 00:00:57 Veronica Jensen: Hello all! <3 00:01:25 Joli Knott: I was panicking earlier ‘cos I thought we were starting at 4pm UK time today--now I know that’s tomorrow!! 00:02:42 Veronica Jensen: I am always thinking about questioning... lol. 00:07:24 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I so appreciate that question, Randa. Finding the balance in the questions and the practices/ consulting myself 00:07:32 Aiyana : I have also been setting aside the tools I am used to relying on in order to practice new skills. The questioning has been the hardest for me so far. All the other skills have felt natural. Questioning has felt like a much bigger stretch. When I do ask questions, I really challenge myself to not ask leading questions because that is where I am naturally pulled much of the time. 00:08:10 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): with you, Aiyana! 00:09:53 Aiyana : Thank you, Michelyn I still want to connect with you soon 😄 00:13:55 Vlada Tomova: Thank you, Michelyn, for bringing this forward! 00:15:28 Veronica Jensen: I reflected back a phrase to a client yesterday and she didn't even realize she'd said that thing. It opened up a whole new conversation. 00:16:25 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): Barbara, I love that point you just made. In my opinion, when the client is activated or triggered, it is more important to use their exact words. Then when they are calmer can be the time for paraphrasing. I am open to other perspectives on this. 00:16:52 Barbara Daughter: That’s really helpful, Michelyn. I will try to carry that awareness forward. 00:18:44 Sophie Jane Hardy: Could a connection like that easily become a tangent that takes us away from the focus? 00:22:01 amy palatnick: the question I always have in mind is “what part of the client is trying to emerge?” and “what is most supportive to the client?” 00:22:16 sidsel: Nice one, Amy 00:22:19 Veronica Jensen: Good question, Sophie. If I feel like we've gone off on a few different tangents I also sometimes use something like, "Now that we've looked at these different things, what feels most important to dig into or bring forward in the rest of our time together?" 00:22:40 Sophie Jane Hardy: That’s great Veronica thanks. 00:23:18 Sophie Jane Hardy: I love how that question puts the power back in their hands 00:23:41 Barbara Daughter: great way to consider it, Veronica 00:26:27 Carla Sanders: I’ve had clients put the breaks on and say let me book another session when we get to those going deeper moments you refer too, Kelly. 00:26:54 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Yes, thanks, Carla. 00:30:21 amy palatnick: and gives perspective 00:33:36 Randa Sultan: how would you bring in the spiritual 00:33:39 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I am seeing that I do this instinctively but it's good to make it more conscious 00:34:11 Barbara Daughter: yes I see that as well, Michelyn, and it’s good to tease out the distinctions and consider them independently 00:34:16 Aiyana : I’m grateful that brining in the emotional, spiritual and body has been natural for me. I’m very interested in learning to combine questions with this 00:34:49 Barbara Daughter: what a great question Tina! 00:35:35 Veronica Jensen: I have not found that's the case. Connection is trust - god, etc. doesn't matter in that case. Do they feel connected to something larger, a community, their environment, etc. 00:36:01 amy palatnick: i think that figures from dreams (nighttime) can also activate the spirit level 00:36:21 MaryAnn: I’m noticing that for me, I can have a cognitive grasp of an issue, but still lack the ability to change my energy, habit or behavior, until I go deeper and progress to heart, spirit/deep inner self, body levels of integrating.…It really highlights the importance of helping clients move beyond the cognitive level into the other three to support the transformation they want to experience. 00:36:39 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I have found that non-spiritual people appreciate calling this out and having a conversation about it up front. 00:36:40 Angela Stringhini: Can you challenge the Ego with the observation of the Ego 00:36:41 Barbara Daughter: great observation @MaryAnn 00:36:48 Sarah Van Hoy: There can be a shame or unworthiness thing that can be a barrier to trust. 00:37:46 MaryAnn: It’s kind of captured in the concept “awareness is the first step to change." 00:38:27 Vlada Tomova: It is incredible to notice how connected and interwoven the 4 levels - and great to separate them into different sides of the whole! 00:41:22 amy palatnick: yes! learning so much! 00:42:04 Veronica Jensen: It's like the security blanket of coaching :) I did the same thing 00:44:02 Sophie Jane Hardy: Q: are we going to cover the four levels of learning anywhere? perhaps we already have and I’ve forgotten! 00:47:40 amy palatnick: self-centered vs. selfish 00:54:08 AJ Frenzel: What is the difference between softness and timidity? 00:55:02 Barbara Daughter: great consideration AJ 00:56:59 AJ Frenzel: I really feel this because I’ve had a deep deep fear of accidentally offending people - not just clients, but strangers and existing relationships. 00:57:04 Sophie Jane Hardy: Great insight Randa 00:57:20 Aiyana : I relate, AJ 00:58:16 Barbara Daughter: I also wonder if the people who are attracted to being coached by Randa are those who need that gentleness; whereas those who are attracted to being coached by me are more ready for more directness 00:59:03 Joli Knott: That’s a good insight, Barbara—energetically it absolutely makes sense 🙂 00:59:07 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I had that same thought, Barbara. We each have our own energetic signatures that attract clients 00:59:17 Randa Sultan: Thank you AJ and Barbara - certainly some reflection here and there are different relationships with each client, and it may be a matter of defining this and asking what types of support each needs and feeling how it will work/land best with each 00:59:43 amy palatnick: or maybe when they are feeling something but aren’t connected to it, like when emotions are trying to press through and they seem to be holding it down/back 01:01:14 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Barbara, I was thinking the same thing - who is drawn to who? and how our individual backgrounds and formation of how we express and coach/ heal actually shift what we can bring into the space with clients and what our gifts are for reaching them… 01:06:29 sidsel: Feeling intimidated when imagining to ask motivation questions, interesting … 01:06:38 MaryAnn: I love using percentages, they are surprisingly powerful at shifting perspective. 01:09:11 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Sometimes we need permission to ask for help 🙂 01:12:10 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I REALLY need to work on this one - the interruption 🙂 01:12:25 Sophie Jane Hardy: Can you give an example of lovingly interrupting? 01:12:38 Kendra Woods: Me too Kelly. 01:13:25 Sophie Jane Hardy: SO GOOD! 01:15:05 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): This is a big deal in coaching. I 01:15:17 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I feel I am always trying to get better at interrupting. 01:15:51 Veronica Jensen: Me too, Kelly & Michelyn. I'm hesitant to cut someone off if they process out loud and may just be getting to the gold around the bend 01:16:36 Joli Knott: I really feel this AJ—thank you for asking this question! I really struggle with this in my client sessions and it causes me to run over often… 01:16:37 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Yes, Michelyn. Joanna’s example was so beautiful. I need to get more artistic at it - I’m often finding myself wanting to honor what they’re sharing and not feel I’m cutting them off or somehow dishonoring… this is big area of growth for me! 01:17:04 Barbara Daughter: yes me too, @Kelly 01:17:20 Joli Knott: Love that, Joanna—thank you for that example 🙂 01:17:51 Aiyana : I generally talk to people before we start about the possibility of me “pausing” them at times. Then, when/if they seem to be lost in unconscious talking or if there are essential pieces they have said that would benefit with reflection, I will make the pause symbol with my hand and then lovingly say “pause" 01:18:15 Barbara Daughter: that’s a great idea, @Aiyana 01:18:19 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Joanna, I’m going to practice your words over and over and get them in my body 🙂 so they will be more accessible. It’s so gentle and moving when you say them! 01:18:29 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Aiyana, I love this idea! 01:18:30 Joli Knott: I really like that, Aiyanna—thank you for sharing that! 01:18:37 MaryAnn: I do that too, 01:18:55 Brenda: Aiyana - GREAT suggestion — Love this 01:19:05 amy palatnick: when people interrupt me in this way, i feel relieved. I need the pause. 01:19:09 Aiyana : I know that I get lost and distracted in talking, so I appreciate being LOVINGLY paused at times. 01:19:16 Vlada Tomova: Thank you, Aiyana, great idea! 01:19:17 Aiyana : Me too, Amy 🙂 01:19:23 MaryAnn: Aiyana…reframing that I may lovingly interrupt not only helps the client feel better if I need to do that, but it helps ME feel more comfortable doing it. And even so, interrupting (even lovingly) is still a learning edge for me. 01:20:10 Veronica Jensen: That feels like something lovely for us to hold while practicing this skill, @Aiyana. Thank you 01:20:11 Aiyana : Yes, MaryAnn, Me too! It is giving myself permission and being granted permission by having it be in our agreements before we start. 01:21:44 MaryAnn: Yes, it’s two way permission! 01:23:18 Brenda: MaryAnn - so relate to interrupting being a learning edge 01:29:36 Joli Knott: There ARE ways to lovingly interrupt the client!! 01:29:51 Carla Sanders: Feeling wowed by the questions! So many new ways to question! 01:29:52 sidsel: Want to look at why motivation questions feel intimidating to me.. 01:30:01 Joli Knott: Thank you for today—see you tomorrow!! 01:30:03 Veronica Jensen: I'm honoring that this feels like such a delicate dance, and I'm excited to keep leaning in