00:00:39 Veronica Jensen: Hello all! 00:00:43 Lisa Scott: good morning šŸ™ 00:01:02 Tina Dowdy: hi everyone <3 00:01:07 Angela Stringhini: Hello everyone 🄰 00:01:16 amy palatnick: hellllllloooooo!! 00:03:03 Randa Sultan: sorry just missed this - which workshop is this one? 00:04:54 Nell Reid: This workshop next week WILL be recorded? Just confirming. 00:17:21 Sophie Jane Hardy: I’m scared to say this, but I genuinely don’t believe many of my clients know best when it comes to their marketing… 00:17:33 Aiyana McKenzie: Oh my goodness, yes I have done that a lot! 00:18:02 Aiyana McKenzie: I have mostly fallen into the ā€œrescue-heroā€ category 00:18:16 Angela Stringhini: we were reflecting on this in the coaching partner session yesterday. We realised that we don’t know very much about coaching sessions…rather than consulting 00:18:26 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I have two modalities and one is more data-heavy. 00:18:48 Jen Youngquist: I think I take more responsibility for client and their learning than I should, so I find myself consulting more than I should. 00:19:27 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): I am seeing though that even within my data-heavy modality, I could make more room for questioning. Too much data doesn't really land, anyway. 00:19:39 MaryAnn: There is also SO much deep mindset work (at least for my clients) that happens in the genre of marketing. Lots of opportunity for breakthrough questions there! 00:19:53 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I often start out asking questions but then a number of my clients talk long, and I feel the need to move things forward - and then end up consulting to be sure that as we complete they feel they’re walking away with good value. Not sure how to balance the two! 00:20:07 Aiyana McKenzie: I (like many others) was conditioned to NOT ask questions in m life. I got into ā€˜trouble’ for asking ā€˜too many questions’ in school and especially at church and I knew better than to ask questions at home. So, in some ways, I am a newborn at asking questions. 00:20:11 Vlada Tomova: I am always in a hurry!! I’ve erroneously believed that I will speed the process up if I just share my knowledge - but that’s generally ineffective and it is not their knowledge! 00:20:13 Barbara Daughter: That’s an important question @Kelly 00:20:23 Aiyana McKenzie: Vlada, I relate 00:20:30 amy palatnick: @vlada, yes me too 00:20:33 MaryAnn: Great topic, Sophie. šŸ™‚ 00:20:35 AJ Frenzel: I do this with one of my kids more than the other. One is resistant to stretching and figuring stuff out and once it feels they’re being obtuse, I get so impatient! 00:20:42 Tina Dowdy: I take shortcuts for the same reason as Sophie PLUS I actually become concerned about the client accomplishing their goal within the time frame of the coaching package, 00:20:48 Joli Knott: @Michelyn—what you say really resonates with me as I am in a similar position when I am conducting astrological sessions...! 00:21:08 Randa Sultan: Interesting to consider the definition of coaching, vs mentoring, guiding and consulting... 00:21:11 Sophie Jane Hardy: @MaryAnn, yes, SO true 00:21:13 Aiyana McKenzie: I wish I would have known how to ask good questions when my son was young. Glad to learn now 00:21:43 Sophie Jane Hardy: @Kelly - yes, I feel that too. I find myself rushing in the final quarter of the session. 00:22:13 Randa Sultan: @aiyana I completely agree - I find myself trying to reframe my questions with my young son to allow him to come up with the answer... and be patient to allow for the space and time is available for it! 00:22:27 Sophie Jane Hardy: @Aiyana - that’s so interesting… I was also not celebrated for my natural curiosity 00:22:42 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): @Joli, yes! And yet when you ask later, clients often don't remember the data anyway! So good to be reminded of this. 00:22:52 Joli Knott: @Kelly—I struggle with the same thing, too—that the client gets stuck in a story and I need to move things along! 00:23:33 Joli Knott: @Michelynā€”šŸ’ÆIt’s nice to read that it’s not just me that needs to rejig this šŸ™‚ 00:24:36 Angela Stringhini: thank you so much for asking this 00:24:57 Aiyana McKenzie: @Randa, so awesome that you are doing this with your young son! Whoo Hoo! 00:25:10 Sophie Jane Hardy: Makes so much sense Carmen. 00:25:20 Barbara Daughter: Very helpful question @Carmen 00:25:33 AJ Frenzel: @Carmen- YES I get that with my money work as well 00:25:47 Joli Knott: Love your question, Carmen—thanks for asking it šŸ™‚ 00:26:44 Aiyana McKenzie: yes, helpful question, Carmen. thank you for asking 00:28:03 amy palatnick: this is beautiful learning! 00:28:27 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Randa, love that you’re doing this question asking with your son! I do as well with my son - and the more I’ve done it, it’s actually where I feel I’ve gotten my best practice at asking questions! 00:28:49 Brenda: That was so helpful Joanna 00:28:50 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Such a great question, Carmen - and love the response, Joanna! 00:28:55 Angela Stringhini: this is brilliant Joanna, this is incredible! so helpful, thank you so much! 00:28:57 AJ Frenzel: Beautiful, Joanna and the energetics you bring - it feels so accessible 00:29:37 Joli Knott: LOVE this—will need to listen back to this bit in the replay 00:30:32 Tina Dowdy: @ Carmen - yes to all of that 00:30:51 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Yes, @Joli, agreed - I’m drinking it in and want to go back for more! Thank you, @Carmen šŸ™šŸ¼ 00:31:24 Carmen Miranda: <3 00:31:40 amy palatnick: thank you carmen, that was awesome learning! 00:37:05 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): • Listening to Your Client and be attuned to their needs • Keeping track of the Bigger Picture Agenda • Your own intuition & curiosity • Your experience: what you know from your own experience 00:40:30 MaryAnn: Sounds like a difference of leveraging your filter (because you’re aware of it) vs. imposing your filter on the client. 00:40:46 Barbara Daughter: that’s a good way of thinking of it 00:40:47 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): Nice, MaryAnn 00:41:12 Joli Knott: Lovely way to word that, MaryAnn! 00:41:18 Annelise Pesa: Love that MaryAnn 00:41:31 MaryAnn: LOL. Everyone should be at choice about adopting my filters. 00:41:50 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): ha! 00:41:58 Aiyana McKenzie: @MaryAnn šŸ˜„ 00:43:03 Aiyana McKenzie: Barbara, beautiful insights. thank you for underscoring importance of nuances and feeling understood 00:43:25 Joli Knott: The importance of holding an authentic container for all 00:43:35 Vlada Tomova: Our energetics often tell is how we are doing in relationship to staying outcome independent 00:43:45 Barbara Daughter: well-said @Vlada 00:43:47 Joli Knott: Thanks, Barbara šŸ’œ 00:44:21 Vlada Tomova: Thank you @Barbara 00:50:20 amy palatnick: 10 00:50:33 AJ Frenzel: 7 00:50:36 Sophie Jane Hardy: 8 00:50:37 Barbara Daughter: 9 00:50:39 Veronica Jensen: 9 00:50:40 Carmen Miranda: 7 00:50:41 Vlada Tomova: 8 00:50:43 Rachel Alva (she/they): 9 00:50:47 sidsel: 7-8 00:50:48 Brenda: 6 00:50:48 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): 8 00:50:50 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): 2 when triggered, 9 when not 00:51:10 Sophie Jane Hardy: YES @michelyn - me too. My inner child feels 0 choice 00:51:16 Brenda: @Michelyn - YES. When triggered much less choice 00:51:18 Tina Dowdy: I usually look for choices 00:51:26 amy palatnick: also i often wonder about the connection of privilege and choice 00:51:27 Joli Knott: Same here, @Michelyn! 00:51:42 Randa Sultan: What I do with my time... 00:51:42 Rachel Alva (she/they): Same Michelyn! 00:51:45 Aiyana McKenzie: Ditto, I go from 9 or 10 to a 0 when I am triggered and forget 00:51:45 Barbara Daughter: ohhhh @Amy that’s a really important awareness IMO 00:51:46 Sophie Jane Hardy: Late evening eating when I’m trying to lose weight. 00:51:48 Veronica Jensen: How I'm spending my time 00:52:03 Annelise Pesa: Kids, relationship, business 00:52:16 Barbara Daughter: More choice philosophy = Getting enough sleep 00:52:24 Aafke: Hear you @Sophie! 00:52:33 Aiyana McKenzie: my schedule 00:52:36 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): So important, @Amy 00:52:43 Aiyana McKenzie: yes! 00:52:48 Rachel Alva (she/they): So good. 00:52:58 sidsel: Excercise 00:54:26 Nell Reid: I’m sorry - I have to run to a doctor’s appointment! I’ll catch the rest of the call in the recording! This is all fantastic. 00:54:37 amy palatnick: by Nell!! <3 00:54:44 amy palatnick: bye šŸ™‚ 00:55:02 Annelise Pesa: Bye Neil- good luck with the doctor 00:56:24 amy palatnick: sometimes if you agree with a client’s negative beliefs it will ā€œflipā€ them. 00:57:14 Barbara Daughter: yes @Amy - there’s something about polarity that I think is in play with this 00:57:24 amy palatnick: yes! 00:57:34 amy palatnick: role playing can get you there quickly 00:57:42 Joli Knott: That’s such an interesting perspective, @Amy! 00:57:54 Vlada Tomova: HHHM! @Amy .. yes! Depends how you express that šŸ˜„ 01:00:42 amy palatnick: with this example, i don’t see how it is bold, doesn’t seem extremely edgy? 01:00:48 Randa Sultan: That question may sound judgey… how to avoid? 01:01:52 MaryAnn: It calls out competing commitments, in this case. 01:02:31 MaryAnn: Calls out, or calls attention to…in more loving energy. 01:05:34 MaryAnn: I’m with you Randa…I tend to do a lot of softening. Even though I love the idea of the ā€œzingerā€ paradigm-shifting question. 01:06:23 AJ Frenzel: The question felt confrontational to me in a sad but mind blowing way, and so much more of an open door with that preframing 01:06:32 amy palatnick: i would want a coach to do this with me all the time. 01:06:48 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Randa, I relate with this very much. I’m such a softener and if concerned I’ve offended, I tend to backpedal… 01:07:25 Randa Sultan: @ Kelly... exactly! A conflict avoidance response and mediator response for me for sure... something I will be evaluating personally 01:08:02 Rachel Alva (she/they): I’m thinking this might come back to deep listening—those kinds of bold questions might fit best when we can see that our clients are right on the edge of fully adopting a new belief/practice around the issue 01:08:07 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): @Randa, yes, doing lots of self-reflection in this moment šŸ™‚ - and raising my own inner awareness of where this comes from 01:09:19 Joli Knott: That is definitely a skill I need to work on! 01:09:37 Barbara Daughter: I think that makes sense @Rachel 01:13:57 AJ Frenzel: ALL the birth metaphors are in my MoneyDoula work! haha 01:16:01 amy palatnick: I find nature metaphors are great, everyone can relate to them, esp. nature the client relates to 01:20:04 Joli Knott: Thank you for this reminder, Joanna šŸ’œ 01:26:04 Annelise Pesa: Are why questions always a no no ?? 01:26:34 Brenda: Where is that form? 01:30:56 Barbara Daughter: Was there more homework than the feedback form? 01:31:23 Michelyn.com (MIKE-uh-lin): to truly be curious, and to lead clients less to where I think they should go 01:31:34 Aafke: Strengthening my choice philosophy 01:31:42 Annelise Pesa: BEING BOLDER ! 01:31:43 Joli Knott: I loved the reminder to not be attached to outcomes when I ask questions... 01:31:43 Vlada Tomova: Don’t stack questions šŸ™‚ and make Qs succinct! 01:31:47 Brenda: Taking time to craft a question and naming it 01:31:55 Sophie Jane Hardy: Coming from the philosophy of choice 01:31:58 Aiyana McKenzie: Takeaway: pausing and crafting a question— when I feel like consulting/rescuing, to ask myself if there is a question I can ask instead 01:32:02 Barbara Daughter: the nuance of using clients’ languaging and introducing new language 01:32:05 sidsel: succint questions 01:32:08 Randa Sultan: pausing to consider what is needed in the moment 01:32:11 Rachel Alva (she/they): Unwed self from outcome 01:32:12 Tina Dowdy: to help client be aware that there are choices 01:32:14 Angela Stringhini: thank you so much! 01:32:19 Deva Munay: THE NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THE ENERGETICS IN PLACE TO CREATE A SOLID CONTAINER TO ASK BREAKTHROUGH QUESTIONS