00:04:00 Nikki Finucan: There's been a Zoom problem it kept coming up Invalid ID 00:05:43 Sarah MacKay (she/her): @Joanna—Melody and I had to find an old ZOOM link. The link in Talia’s 5am email yesterday does not work. 00:06:56 Sarah MacKay (she/her): No worries!! 00:09:15 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What have you been noticing and learning about Energetics? How has this shifted your coaching sessions or any other relationships? What’s important here? 00:11:48 Deva Munay: Hi, I had the wrong link and I’m just getting to join. What are we working on? 00:12:02 Windy Wile: Same 00:12:12 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Hi Deva! We’re answering the question… What have you been noticing and learning about Energetics? How has this shifted your coaching sessions or any other relationships? What’s important here? 00:12:23 Nikki Finucan: I work with corporates and teams and I really have noticed in more detail the energetics of teams and connections and how it works and how it impacts when the energetics and containers aren't maintained. Even in my Aqua aerobics class I noticed the energetics of the instructor and how the classes felt different 00:12:30 Sarah MacKay (she/her): @ Our discussion of Energetics has really encouraged me to pause and allow space to bring energetics into my coaching sessions in a full-throated way. I used to attune to the energetics but fear that I couldn’t bring them up unless they were bashing me on the head. But now I use the word in my sessions and my clients seem open to allowing this discussion into the sessions. One of my clients has started to talk about the energetics with her daughter. Our work together is going deeper. 00:12:44 Deva Munay: Thanks! 00:14:33 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Thanks, Joanna - so excited to be here, and to be in this new Sacred Depths community - looking forward to getting to know you all! 00:14:41 Anniina: Welcome all new/old folks ❤️ 00:15:08 Kim Davies: @Anniina- I really resonated with what you were saying! 00:17:32 Julie Greenberg: I’ve been noticing and loving feeling more confident and secure showing up for client calls and enrollment calls with less of a sense of needing to feel like I need to prove anything by fixing, but rather that simply holding space with love and curiosity really helps to level the playing field and allows clients to feel safe to go deeper. 00:18:21 Caroline Holke: When I freak out, they freak out 00:19:40 Melody Noll: A facilitator friend says: "The energy you bring to an interaction is the energy you get." 00:20:20 Vlada Tomova: I became attuned to my energy and realized how depleted I had been for a long time, so I allowed myself time to heal! 00:20:32 Fanshen Thompson: It has helped a ton with parenting 00:20:42 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Huge with parenting, for sure! 00:22:18 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): If left unguided, what happens in the coaching container is a microcosm of what happens out of the coaching container, in the real world 00:22:24 Vlada Tomova: I am now finally becoming quite attuned to the energy I bring to every element in my life, and also to group energetics! 00:22:27 Anniina: Also in our coaching buddy sessions, we've been focused into the energetics together regarding projects for example to see how they feel only then giving some words to it :) So not only in the sense of what is my energy or what is hers but the session itself focused to energy 00:28:44 Vlada Tomova: I have seen this happen multiple times - and I did not know how to handle it 🙂 00:29:33 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): I’m feeling into a dynamic in my group program with one of the participants - been feeling the beginnings of her old patterns being projected onto me. Knowing I need to address it - but not sure how to do in the group. I need to go off camera to pick up my kiddo from school - will be listening on my phone - will be back soon! 00:30:59 Inbal Sansani (she/her): I like that you're suggesting that it speaks to the safety of the container! 00:35:31 Vessica: How would we know if these things show up? Since they probably wouldn’t say it outlaid? 00:35:41 Vessica: Outloud.. 00:36:26 Julie Greenberg: This is all so affirming as it is so relevant to what was just coming forward in a call with a client just yesterday, and I was reflecting afterward on how I might most effectively support her around how these family dynamics are showing up iin our work together while also keeping her big picture goals and process on track. 00:38:45 Inbal Sansani (she/her): That's awesome awareness on your part, Julie. 00:39:04 Inbal Sansani (she/her): Well done, Wendy! 00:40:16 Julie Greenberg: @Inbal, thanks ☺️ 00:42:48 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): Windy, love this! I also feel direct approach that takes sometimes a bit of courage on our side, is usually surprisingly good. It also means we respect them and trust them they can take it (and not treat them as little children who don't get it). 00:44:38 Windy Wile: Thank you ♥️ 00:48:57 Michelle Marlahan: The energetics around the question itself… it can be offered in such different ways. 00:51:32 Vessica: Thank you love 00:53:03 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): o What are some of the unhelpful dynamics/patterns you have/ have had with your parent/s or primary caretaker/s? 00:55:07 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): o What are some of the unhelpful dynamics/patterns you have/ have had with your own sisters/brothers if you’ve had one or stand-ins for them? 00:55:22 Sarah MacKay (she/her): @ Joanna - Oh GAWD!! ;~) This is getting a little intense… 00:56:26 Heather Newcomb she/her: I always felt that when my sibling succeeded it happened at my "expense" and there wasn't room for both of us to suceed 00:57:46 Vessica: This was a big Aha for me years ago, when I recognized this within myself… I had a dynamic as a young girl that I needed to save my mother, that rolled over into my relationship dynamics UNTIL I became aware this was operating - It took a lot off conscious effort to not have this continue to be a dynamic in my close relationship, with clients, and with the world…a big aha for me…years ago..and I still have to be conscious of it. 00:57:46 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): o What are some of the unhelpful dynamics/patterns you’ve had with teachers or authority figures? 01:00:10 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): o As coachee or client, how have you brought family dynamics, patterns or projections into the relationship? 01:04:48 Vlada Tomova: @Angie .. a similar combo for me! 01:10:46 Annemieke van Dorland: Here another one Kelsey :) 01:10:47 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): Kelsey, same, thank you for speaking it out. 01:10:48 Bryn Bowersock: @Julianna - that totally struck a chord with me! You said it SO WELL - wow!! 01:11:57 Windy Wile: SAME @Kelsey same 01:16:46 Lauren Piro (she/her): That one is so relatable for me right now! 01:17:19 Inbal Sansani (she/her): The need to be needed, which is kind of funny (and not) for an 'empowerment' coach. ;) 01:17:42 Julie Greenberg: I completely relate to that one @Inbal. 01:18:17 Vessica: Will you type that question into the chat? 01:18:53 Kim Davies: Needing to be perfect to be loved which shows up as me taking over-responsibility to want to fix the client. 01:18:58 Nikki Finucan: The need to "save" people as I am forever saving my brother, bailing him out. Trying to fix everything. What if I don't help them 01:18:59 Inbal Sansani (she/her): I mean, as the oldest & only daughter in an immigrant family, I really like telling people what to do. 01:19:02 Michelle Marlahan: I see how I used my role professionally to try to heal the family wounds/patterns. My (now mostly checked) pattern is to want and NEED to be the favorite. 01:19:09 Lori Clemmons: As the big sister of the family and being expected to take some responsibility for my younger sibs, I now see myself needing to "fix" my clients and take responsibility for their progress, or lack thereof. 01:19:19 Lisa Avnet: checking my "too muchness" need to over do and the opposite, to throttle myself back 01:19:22 Inbal Sansani (she/her): YES, Kim & Lori, same! 01:19:27 Dottie Lamoureux: I don’t bring enough value. 01:20:17 Annemieke van Dorland: Feel not important enough and make myself small. When somebody is very outspoken aka bossy, i withdraw mentally. 01:20:26 Michelle Marlahan: Same @Lisa 01:20:31 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Wanting to show up perfectly and 150% in all the ways… and to be the “good girl”, the one they can count on, the one who never lets them down (overgiving/ overperforming/ over supporting…)for everyone to know they are cared for, loved, and that someone has their back… and they don’t feel abandoned in any way. Whew, makes me tired reading what I wrote… 01:20:47 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): I so much want to make sure that I am valuable for them, that every session is valuable, that I am giving enough to them, I am wondering sometimes, if they are getting their moneys worth. What if they are regretting they payed me upfront. 01:21:16 Julie Greenberg: I had the experience in my family, and still do of being misunderstood. And I notice I tend to feel like people in my life, including my brothers, seem disinterested in what I’m doing because they don’t understand and even maybe judge me or minimize my efforts because what I am doing is seen as unconventional. Like, why don’t I just go get a job. 01:21:24 Michelle Marlahan: @Annemieke YES 01:21:41 Inbal Sansani (she/her): YES, so tiring, Kelly! 01:21:45 Sarah MacKay (she/her): If a male client is cool or unfriendly to his wife or me–reminding me of my father–or somewhat argumentative–I start to feel distant. I may alternate between attempting to “please” –making an extra effort to acknowledge his point of view to hide my feelings, or privately thinking “You’re a deadbeat, Mr. No wonder your wife is struggling to deal with you and your teen is messed up!” 01:22:30 Sarah MacKay (she/her): @Joanna—this is SO hard to admit!! 01:22:40 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): Gosh, I am just realising how much of my self worth is tied to being of value to others. 01:22:56 Inbal Sansani (she/her): Anita, same. 01:23:32 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): Inbal, not happy for you, but happy I am not the only one ;) 01:23:42 Vessica: Did you add the question Joanna? 01:23:51 Vessica: Thank you 01:24:05 Annemieke van Dorland: So much of this is so recognisable. And all the time i am thinking "I must be the only person to feel or think this way" 01:24:14 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Oh, Anita, you are absolutely not the only one. I feel this very much myself. 01:24:26 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): ❤️ 01:43:54 Michelle Marlahan: Ideal Dog Archetype is here! 01:44:16 Fanshen Thompson: 🤎 01:44:38 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Love that, Kelsey! And I open directions before all of my sessions/ program calls -and call upon that healed feminine and masculine energy - so good to lean into that! 01:47:40 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): Yes, Vessica, I totally get what you mean with responsibility. 01:47:53 Angie: Love that Vessica 01:49:13 Fanshen Thompson: Or the next right tears 😃 01:51:43 Deva Munay: To love love love! Energy follows energy Helpful to remember that most all people are wanting to be seen, heard, and loved 01:52:17 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): Personal and practitioner interconnected: If I worry to much about being valuable, I am less valuable, because I am making it too much about me. 01:52:55 Lisa Farr: Love your clients and love yourself - at any moment. It changes the energy! 01:52:56 Julianna: Personal- My watch item is staying with things and allowing them to be messy and ambiguous. Professional-Really be there and love, love, love 01:53:03 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): The Relationship is the foundation for everything - and the coaching container is a microcosm of what happens outside of the coaching container. And within that we can do so very much! 01:53:33 Sarah MacKay (she/her): The degree to which my family dynamics is brought unconsciously into my coaching… 01:54:32 Dottie Lamoureux: A deep and meaningful reminder that energetics are key and how unchecked energy might show up. 01:54:38 Julie Greenberg: That I am a really good, skilled coach. Not perfect. And that’s ok. Personally, I still have a lot of inner work to do, and I know that I am well resourced for showing up for myself and my growth so that I can be a more effective practitioner. 01:56:32 Anniina: One thing/projection at a time and being patient with myself when becoming aware of mine and client's projections❤️ 01:56:45 Vlada Tomova: I will continue to work on the ideal sister energy 🙂 with my collaborators! It’s been so great to work with a new group of colleagues and see this in action <3 01:58:27 Julie Greenberg: SOOOOO Good, Joanna! Thank you ❤️ 01:58:43 Caroline Holke: Thank you Joanna ❤️ 01:58:48 Michelle Marlahan: This was fantastic. So revealing. Thank you! 01:58:59 Dottie Lamoureux: Thank you so very much, Joanna!!!! So amazing to be here again. ❤️❤️❤️ I always learn so much, even if it’s the second time around! 01:59:00 Kim Davies: Thank you, such great stuff! 01:59:01 Deva Munay: Thank you all! Blessings! 01:59:07 Carmen Guerrero she/her: Sending you all much Love 01:59:11 Kelly Lubeck (she/her): Thank you so much! and good retreat wishes, Joanna! 01:59:13 Vlada Tomova: It is really incredible to be able to do this a second time!