00:13:30 Heather Newcomb, VWW: If we don't do the full certification, do we still qualify for completion certificates from our trainings? 00:14:23 Carly Jo Bell: Are there any recertification processes required? 00:15:05 Natalie Jobity, The Unveiled Way: For Foundation level only, will there be completion certificates? I guess a bigger question is how is that END acknowledged? 00:19:40 Carly Jo Bell: Yes, this has happened MANY times lol 00:32:35 Carmen Guerrero she/her: I apologize, i need to disconnect. I'm fighting a stomach bug and having the hardest time concentrating!
Big Love to all, I'll catch the recording. Thank you Joanna 00:32:57 Fanshen Thompson: feel better! 00:41:14 Gaia Budhai: that they wont like me 00:41:24 Heather Newcomb, VWW: The client isn't ready to hear it. 00:41:33 Annemieke van Dorland: That the client might get so angry with me they don't want to work with me anymore 00:41:39 Heather Newcomb, VWW: Or that it might trigger a core wound 00:41:45 Fanshen Thompson: that the timing is off 00:41:48 Michelle Marlahan: What if I'm wrong, seeing it incorrectly 00:41:54 Lauren Piro (she/her): they'll get angry, defensive, and manipulative, turning it around on me 00:42:42 Lisa Avnet: never 00:42:45 Carly Jo Bell: rarely, and when it was, it was painful 00:42:50 Heather Newcomb, VWW: Never it was all about appearance 00:42:53 Michelle Marlahan: zero 00:42:54 Kim Davies: never 00:42:58 Angie: nope 00:42:59 Natalie Jobity, The Unveiled Way: Never--in denial 00:43:04 Caroline Holke: NEVER- I had lunch with my Dad today and skirted around it 00:43:05 Lauren Piro (she/her): never, avoidance rages in my family 00:43:08 Annemieke van Dorland: rarely (covered with a blanket of smiles) 00:43:09 Jana Mariana: not often, lost of hiding/secrets 00:43:19 Doris Navarro: Not often, and when it happened it wasn't in a loving way 00:43:22 Fanshen Thompson: too much truth in my hippie upbringing 🤪 00:43:26 Sarah MacKay Lynch: Oy...too often. Two therapist parents!! 00:43:38 Inbal Sansani (she/her): Or that when I did tell truths, I was gaslit about it. 00:43:46 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): some things were to the truth and some weren't 00:43:56 Lauren Piro (she/her): oo the gaslighting. I relate to that, Inbal 00:44:02 Annemieke van Dorland: the little truths very much in each other's face. big truths raraely 00:44:07 Julie Greenberg: I watched a movie last night in which the family dynamics (therapist mother) demonstrated many of these trends around truth telling. 00:44:13 Natalie Jobity, The Unveiled Way: oh the gas lighting! 00:44:34 Gaia Budhai: Quite a bit In the immediate family but NOT in the extended family, which was confusing 00:44:54 Angie: Passive Aggressively 00:45:00 Melody Noll: with blame 00:45:01 Natalie Jobity, The Unveiled Way: But because I didn't grow up with it, it makes we want to stand stronger for it with others 00:45:02 Annemieke van Dorland: bluntly 00:45:03 Carly Jo Bell: It was only shared when times were "desperate," and so it was shared with that air of desperation and stress and also a lot of disappointment and blaming 00:45:18 Julie Greenberg: definitely lots of gas lighting and blame. 00:45:22 Gaia Budhai: Half truths 00:45:31 wendyjamar: gaslighting 00:45:51 Windy Wile: Same same same 00:46:12 Natalie Jobity, The Unveiled Way: I was made wrong for sharing truth 00:46:27 Carly Jo Bell: Mom always gaslit me and got mad at me/it was all “my fault.” 00:46:27 Lisa Avnet: turned around on me 00:46:28 Melody Noll: "You're selfish." Or with violence. 00:46:34 Lisa Avnet: also denial 00:46:35 Lauren Piro (she/her): I was the problem 00:46:40 Julie Greenberg: definitely a lot of reactivity... I was very often the scapegoat in my family. My dad would literally say to me, “everything was fine until you came home.” 00:46:51 Doris Navarro: Didn't react well and became defensive 00:46:52 Anna: Taken as an act of aggression against mom 00:46:53 Sarah MacKay Lynch: Psychologist parents, especially Dad, felt that we (children) had to be over 21 to even know what the truth was…they slowly evolved in their appreciation of our persepectives. 00:47:03 Michelle Marlahan: I was outcast 00:47:06 Lisa Avnet: the trifecta, denial, minimization, and blame 00:47:07 Windy Wile: Met with anger and defense 00:47:14 Annemieke van Dorland: talking good (yes, but this ans this circumstance..) 00:47:16 Angie: Turn it around and make it about themselves - very defensive. 00:47:16 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): it felt emotionally abandoned, like my truth cannot be accepted 00:47:26 Gaia Budhai: i think i spoke up quite a bit and i think extended family wasn't happy with that, saying things like "You talk too much" 00:47:27 Windy Wile: Then shamed 00:48:19 Lisa Avnet: while I initially thought I am good at truth telling with clients, I'm feeling a lot of churn in my upper belly as we go into the energy of it. 00:54:41 Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What is my client NOT seeing, accepting or fully embracing that would create a shortcut to their growth or results? 00:55:40 Gaia Budhai: can u repear that again, please 00:56:05 Angie: Gaia :: Always check in with your inner wisdom as to whether the client is ready to HEAR or is ready to be AWARE of that reflection? 01:05:58 Gaia Budhai: that's brilliant! 01:10:00 Lisa Avnet: noticing the many differences between this way, and "what's wrong with you is...." 01:16:51 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): I learned lately that I MUST ask for permission before sharing my anecdote, for the reasons you said, client feeling like they have to listen to me instead of me listening them 01:17:11 Gaia Budhai: Woah!! 01:20:27 Natalie Jobity, The Unveiled Way: I'm not buying this one Client 01:25:17 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): "I can choose how to bring awareness and truth" -love this one Natalie 01:26:16 Natalie Jobity, The Unveiled Way: Thanks Anita 01:27:05 Lisa Avnet: I find it very grounding and calming to have gone through these pieces, which will help me expand my palette of energies in my client work. Thank you! 01:27:17 Gaia Budhai: I LOVE these ways of reflecting the truth , especially checking in with your inner wisdom in the moment. I tend to be Bold and Beautiful and Personal anecdote way, BUT bring inner wisdom into the moment is so powerful . I think its the most powerful Art there is. 01:30:18 Nicole Villegas: thank you so much 01:30:23 Michelle Marlahan: Thank you! 01:31:06 Anita Puksic (anitapuksic.com): Thank you everyone <3