Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm so excited to be here. I am so happy to have this time together to share with you how we can continue our work together in advance steps, if that should feel
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): aligned for you. And first, I just want to say, thank you for being here
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for taking the time out of your day to learn about going deeper with your one on one clients, with your groups, to learn how to go deeper with yourself.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and to learn about continuing our work together. I don't take it for granted that you're here, and I'm honored that you're here, and we are intimate here live today. I know a number of you, requested the recording. So when you get to listen to the recording for those of you that weren't here live hello to you as well.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay, I'm gonna jump right in.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in a nutshell, advanced depth
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): is about doing some of the deepest personal and shadow work that's possible.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): doing it for yourself. and then learning how to support your clients to do it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): so that you have even beyond everything that we've learned in sacred depths, and we've learned so much the deepest of the deep ways to help your clients overcome their hardest blocks and create results and also create true self love and acceptance.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the shadow work that we do in advance, and the techniques that you learn in advanced is at the heart of the biggest, most sacred, most impactful transformation I've experienced in my own life.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and while we lightly dip our toes into the easier shadow pieces in sacred depths
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in advance, we do the much harder but very, very satisfying work, and it's work that I can tell you. You never forget your entire life.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): shadow is a term that gets thrown around a lot in the coaching industry and in the transformational industries. But very few practitioners actually understand it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and even fewer know how to work with it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I formally started working with shadow over 20 years ago, and at that time I had already done a lot of self development, a lot of therapy, and it was already very self aware.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But even with all of that work under my belt
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): coming for real face to face with my shadows, it basically blew all of the other self development work I had done out of the water
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): at its core. The real shadow work
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): is about coming face to face with the parts of yourself.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that you have deemed unacceptable, or bad, or wrong, or weak.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or unsavory, or harmful, or shameful.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the parts that these are the parts that also consistently get in the way of what you want. though you usually don't even recognize them as parts of yourself.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The shadow work is about courageously coming face to face with those parts that we're taught, usually from a young age, but not always. We're taught to deny those parts of ourselves to repress those parts of ourselves, the hate on those parts of ourselves, to hide those parts of ourselves, or to try to cut them out of us.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But of course we can't ever truly get rid of who we are. and I'm gonna go further than that and say we shouldn't try to.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): We shouldn't try to get rid of our most authentic or primal impulses, no matter how unacceptable they seem.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): we shouldn't try to get rid of our innermost desires, no matter how ugly society or our family has told us that they are, because we need all of ourselves.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and we need to be able to leverage all of the parts of ourselves, or else they become harmful either to us
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or to others. When we try to get rid of the parts
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): of ourselves. These parts, these impulses when we stuff them into shadow. That's when we end up unconsciously being run by them.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): That's when we end up self sabotaging. That's when we end up not doing the things we want to be doing.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): That's when we may end up inadvertently hurting others
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or getting triggered by others because they happen to have these same parts or impulses that we're trying to deny about ourselves. We end up tying so much of our life
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): force, energy
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in hiding.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in repressing, in pretending.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Then we end up
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): feeling ashamed about these parts, or hating on ourselves
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): examples of some of the parts and impulses that I'm talking about anger. aggression.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): wanting to be bigger than anyone else.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): wanting to be more powerful than others. competitiveness and wanting to be the bass
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): selfishness and the impulse for things to be very focused on you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): sexuality in ways that aren't accepted by society.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): laziness.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): extreme pleasure
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): being judgmental.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the impulse to destroy things, to blow them up.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): All of these things are examples of parts of ourselves that we actually need.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): maybe for you. You've put your neuro divergence into shadow or your Southerness into shadow. Now that I live in the South, a lot of people, I see that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for a long time I put my Jewishness into shadow. In some ways. Maybe you put your love of junk food into shadow.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): It might sound strange.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But again, the work is to reclaim
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): all of these parts right. And I'm just meaning a few. And I want to give you a very personal
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): example of this.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So I grew up in a household and in a community
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): where the only type of acceptable daughter was a good Jewish daughter and a good immigrant daughter.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and what that meant was that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I was supposed to be devoted. I was supposed to be selfless. I was supposed to always be showing up for my parents, doing everything for my parents, and even into adulthood.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I was talking to my mother on the phone multiple times a day, visiting New Jersey from Brooklyn, even with young child multiple times a week.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): To add to that, my mother has had multiple sclerosis since I've been sick she's been since I've been 9. She's been very sick my entire life, right? So that added on to the only acceptable way. To be a daughter was to be good was to be righteous.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): was to be selfless. selfish.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): was one of the dirtiest words in my house growing up.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): wanting to have your own life, or knowing what your needs were, let alone taking action. To get your needs met
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): was a verboten putting myself first. It wasn't only not an option. It was a source of shame to think that I would even want
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to put myself first.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and so I stuffed all of my selfishness away.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I tried to pretend that there was no part of me that cared about myself
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): more than I cared about my mother.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I put all of that into shadow as if it wasn't a part of me.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Well, you can kind of guess what happened
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): with that it did not work well.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Not only was I devoting so much of my life force
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to my mother in inappropriate ways. I got sick myself from it. I was constantly feeling guilty that I wasn't there enough, even though I was always there. I resented my parents. I resented myself
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): until I did the shadow work
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): until I was willing to look at my selfishness straight in the face.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the part of me that cared more about me than anyone else, and to say, I have this as a part of me.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): no matter how ugly my parents or society told me that it was, or how bad that this impulse was
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to want for myself. First I worked with it, and I reclaimed it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and I worked to own the fact that even though I was such a good daughter. There were parts of me that were also a bad daughter.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and I learned to appreciate those parts
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): instead of hating on myself for it, and instead of letting that run my life.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and when I tell you that I worked to own my selfishness, I don't just mean cognitively right cause I know all of us here. We're like yay selfishness. It's a good thing, right like cognitively right, but to own it for real, for it to be good and right for me, for real, not giving it the lip service.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): but then vilifying it on a deeper level.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The shadow work is about stopping to vilify it, and actually love whatever the shadow is inside of you, and then use it for good
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and doing. That work
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): is what allowed me
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to not only build my business
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to make my children part of the priority, instead of always making my mother the priority.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But I ultimately actually moved away from New Jersey, even though I had a sick mother, even though everybody thought, Oh, my God! How could she do this? How could she move away? And it was the best decision I have ever made for myself and my children.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Here's what I want you to know.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The shadow work isn't easy work, and it's not pretty all the time, and it's not surface, though it is fun. I will tell you. It is fun.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): It is confronting work. It's about being with the parts of yourself that you've denied for so long. The parts that you've decided are the worst parts of yourself
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): hurts that maybe you're not even conscious of it first, that you have them, because it's felt too dangerous in your life to admit that they're even there.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): you know the work that we do in advance at first. For some people it can sometimes even be slightly triggering.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But ultimately, in the safety of the container. What triggers you becomes the most healing thing in the most profound ways, particularly at the big shadow retreat in advance. I always start off by telling people that at some point they might temporarily hate me.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Some people do at some point temporarily hate me, but we always come out with so much love all around.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and the shadow work is hard, but it is so worth it, because on the other side, you get to have more of you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): more of your resources.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and so much more self-love, and so much less
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): same
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the work that I share with you in advanced steps.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): In addition to helping you know, with what I've already shared. It's it's part of what allows me to be visible in my business. It allows me to be a much better parent.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): It allows me to be a much better practitioner, not only because of the techniques that I share, but because I don't pass any judgment on any of my clients shadows.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and I'm not scared of any of it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The other thing is, the shadow work helps you become a much better human in so many ways.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and I'll just give you one brief personal example of this. It's kind of like the part 2 to the the good daughter story that I just told.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So when I first started advocating for equity and especially equity around race. And this was well before the murder of George Floyd.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Most of my action and my advocacy came from my values and my passion for equity. But
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I didn't at first realize it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Some of it also came from my obsessive need to look righteous
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and to be righteous because of some of the things I shared with you. A few minutes ago I had had this obsessive need my whole life. It was so familiar that I didn't even recognize that it was a need.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And that's because I had at some point in my life put being not righteous into shadow. Right? I decided there could not be any part of me that wasn't righteous. I decided that there was no part of me that could be bad. There was no part of me that could have those selfish thoughts right any of it, and certainly nobody
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): could ever see it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I would be hated or reviled, or worthless as a human being.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And so the need to be seen as righteous was really about running away
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): from the part of myself that wasn't righteous. and because of all of this at first, for all of the posting about equity that I did, and the writing and the talking you all of it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I was always in high anxiety about it. I was paranoid that people thought I wasn't doing enough. I was paranoid, that people thought I was a fake.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I actually even felt, if you can believe it, oppressed by the nameless people out there on social media, who probably thought that I wasn't doing enough. All the things this kept me up at night.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I mean truly kept me up
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): at night with anxiety.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and it's like I've been at that point. I've been doing shadow work and teaching shadow work for over a decade. Right? But it's like sometimes we just we can't so deep we can't see it ourselves at first
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): when I finally had that. Oh, oh, wait, hold on! There's something in shadow here. And I did that next round
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): of the really deep work of not only acknowledging that I had parts of myself that weren't righteous, but actually leaning in
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to those parts
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to love them right, to go deeper for the next round of loving them. Guess what happened?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): It's not that equity stopped being important to me, quite the opposite. It became more authentic, more important.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and I started showing up for it with so much more authenticity around it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): not having to worry about what anybody else thinks.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So all of the real work on the shadows. There are many shadows
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): have made me and my life and my business better in so many ways, and without a doubt
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): has made me a better practitioner.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): one who can help my clients. They seemingly do magical things.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and my beloved students who have gone through advanced depth.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): He'll meet over and over again that for them advanced marks a clear before and after in their lives.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the after is about being so much more awake. so much more self, compassionate. so much better resourced.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Being able to make better decisions and being an even better practitioner
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): advanced isn't just a set of knock your socks off techniques that you can use with your clients, though it is that as well. And I just I love this thing. This little quote that someone recently told me about advanced, she said, the advanced step retreats transcend the mind, their soul, surgery.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and the best way that I can describe it is that what we learn and experience in advanced death is a life app
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for you and for your clients. It's a way of coming back home to yourself and your truth and your inherent value.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and coming home to the earth and the earth's magic
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): over and over and over again, no matter what
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it's about moving through your life and the world with more of you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and also seeing other humans with more of them
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): graduates often tell me that advanced open their eyes, and now they're so grateful that they can't unsee. It's like you just can't unsee it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And here's the other thing. I know that. like me, you share the value of making the world a better place, and I can tell you, without a doubt, that working with shadow and supporting others to work with their shadows is one of the ultimate repairing the world tools.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): It addresses systemic power over
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it addresses discrimination. It addresses how to be even more ethical in leadership.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay, so you're probably wondering how we do this in advance. So we work up to this step by step in advance, and the culmination is A is a big in person retreat.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But the heart of the program is 5 intensive virtual retreats
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that meet about every other month. So every 2 months we come together, usually for 2 days, and I call them intensive virtual retreats because they're intensive. They're tight. Containers. Advanced is a smaller group than sacred deaths.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Everybody gets seen and heard, everybody gets direct attention from me. Everybody gets attention from everybody else in the circle.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): There's kind of nowhere to hide in advanced, and and a lot is required of you by way of stretching yourself into your next level of evolution.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But then you also have 2 months of space to integrate everything until we meet for our next intensive.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So let me briefly share with you about each of the intensives. I share my screen.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay, so
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): let me just tell you a little bit more. So you can see this for yourself. So we start in April
online, our first virtual intensive. We go back to befriend your fear.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and we start advanced. We start this whole journey with
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): befriend your fear because it's so foundational, foreshadow, both in terms of the concepts of befriending parts of ourselves
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): as well as in terms of being trauma informed in somatic work, because everything we learn over the year in advance are different somatic techniques. So in these 2 days. Not only do you get an incredible review of what we've learned in sacred deaths
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): on befriend your fear, but then we go much deeper into the details, into the nuances, into the flourishes of the techniques, so that you know it like the back of your hand. And then over those 2 days. You also learn other offshoot techniques
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): of befriend your fear.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): From there we move on to what I call the choose your own shadow journey technique
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in June online. And this technique is a game changer. Clients are blown away every time I do this technique with them. They say it's the best money they've ever spent on anything. The choose your own journey. Technique is kind of like the next step into shadow.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): We go deep into excavating impulses
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that you have buried under history
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): impulses like anger, boundaries being big, having power. And the way that we do this is through a memory reconsolidation, technique
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): unlike one that anyone else out there is using where we go back to memories that you have and
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): we allow you to go back into history and for your clients to do this, too, and grab the parts of yourself that got buried. It's incredibly powerful.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): From there we move into dream work and archetypal symbols, and I should say a lot of the program is also based on Yungian work, and young, of course, spoke a lot about archetypal symbols. I call this intensive. The soul work intensive.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): This is where we get into understanding dreams.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Other archetypal symbols that we see around us through the lens of shadow, through the lens of reclaiming all the parts of ourselves. We learn ways of dream. It's not really dream interpretation. It's dream, I don't know, just like the most incredible dream work you can do as a way of embodying more parts of yourself.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): As a way of understanding your soul. We look at ways of using divination cards that have nothing to do with fortune telling, or the ways that they're usually used. We use them for the archetypal imagery. It's
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it's mystical and just pretty incredible. From there we move on to the next retreat, which is sometimes a little controversial for some folks
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): we reclaim the gold of the devil archety. and I'm not talking about the devil in terms of religion.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): This retreat is about looking at our compulsions.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Those persistent habits that we feel drawn to that are not really aligned for us. and we look at a completely different way through the lens of shadow.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): being able to work with our compulsions. By the way, I'm going to share this whole document with all of you in a few minutes, so
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): he'll have it all in writing. So after we do all of that, then we are ready for our in person. Retreat
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in Charlotte 3 days of the deepest shadow work that you can do in all the ways that I've described so far.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And then we top the program off with one more virtual intensive, the wise warrior technique.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): We look at ways of activating more aligned boundaries.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): those are the intensive retreats. And there's some things that I want you to know about. All of this
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): number one advanced, as you can see, has a very different format
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): from sacred depths. It takes up way less time. It's very spacious, and it works well. If you have a busy schedule
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): we meet every 2 months. We go deep and intensive
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for for the time that we meet, and then you have space. It's like every time we meet you get a big dose of what you need next, and it's like a time release capsule over those 2 months. So especially if you're busy.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or you feel like Oh, my gosh! I want to keep on going. But I also need some space, because sacred depths was intense. This is a way of being able to do that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The second thing that I want you to know is this, especially after everything that you've already received, and safer depth, and you've received so much oftentimes. The very first thought is, Oh, my gosh! I've got enough to chew on for at least the next year, like I'm full. II don't know right? So I first of all, I hear you on that, because we have already done
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): such deep and layered work. There is so much in sacred depths. and
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for some of you that actually might be the reason to continue on too advanced. because there are many places to go deeper with the sacred depths, work to integrate it all.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and we have opportunity to do that in advance. Everything that we learn in advance is also a way of more deeply integrating and embodying everything that we learn in sacred depths. You go deeper in your questioning skills. You go deeper in your creating awareness skills. You go deeper in your working with resistance archetypes. You go deeper into knowing how to hold trauma, informed space, etc., etc.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Here's something else about. Advanced
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): shadow is so deep, but it's so much fun. We laugh a lot. It's it's it's kind of like a big love party, even with sometimes feeling the intensity right, or even the the triggered. But you can go deep without it feeling so heavy.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The other part of it is that the community is incredible. You all already know who I attract and how incredible we are in advanced. We get smaller
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and more intimate. The group gets smaller. You get to have a space to do your deepest inner work with people that get it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): who are gonna support you, who are gonna cheer you on in claiming your most unsavory parts in advance, you get to experience community in a way that I feel like we need more community in general out in the world
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): spaces for us to come together and be together
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in a way where I think we're all craving right. And one of the things that I love and I feel so proud of is that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I have many people that have gone through advanced.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): who still continue to meet years later with their cohorts. They go to each other's weddings, you know, etc. The community is so beautiful.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The other thing that I think is a benefit is, you get more of me.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So there's some practitioners out there that are launchers. They love to work with people once and launch them out and get there on their get them on their way, which is a great way of working with people. But I am the opposite.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm a deep and long term relationship person, and the most powerful and enjoyable work that I do is when we already have a foundation together, when we have the deeper trust that comes from already having travel. This path of sacred depths together advanced is intimate and we spend time with each other.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): You get so much more of my personal attention. And the truth is that I'm picky about who I invite into advanced because we are spending that intensive time together.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm going to brag for a moment.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The other thing about advanced
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): is the in-person retreat.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So first I want to say this, I know that it is annoying to leave your home
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and travel. and it is an expense.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and I wanna acknowledge all of that. I do not like leaving my home just for those of you who you probably have guessed this about me already. that being said the deepest of the deep shadow work
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): when we come together for those 3 days in Charlotte
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it is life changing. If you have not yet been in person with me, I believe that you should again. I said I was gonna brag for a moment. It is an experience that you just. You've not experienced it before, so I understand there is resistance to the in person, and it is the best part, all the parts are amazing, but truly the in person.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The other thing I like about advanced is, while there are opportunities to practice outside of the intensive. You would practice the techniques you're learning. There's built in time inside of each of the retreats for everybody to practice the techniques. So we're learning and practicing and learning and practicing
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And really it's I see the work as this
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): sacred medallion that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm the steward of, and I'm handing over to you to be the steward of as well, to hold it with me.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to hold this sacred path. to help change the world.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): When you walk out of advanced, you own
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the next level of a treasure trove of sacred techniques and processes, and a holy way of looking at the world. Also, it feels amazing to use these techniques with clients.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I could just tell you stories, not just of my own clients, but advanced people that have been through advanced of their clients
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): using these techniques, and I'll just share one. Kelly, who is in the middle of advanced right now, and who is a very experienced practitioner. She recently used the choose your own shadow journey technique with a client who she's been working with for years and years, and that client told her at the end of the session that their work had reached a whole other level of magic.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): what else do I want to share with you?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Let me tell you about bonuses. So like I said, there's a lot of spaciousness in the program, if you're like, I don't want another tight container like sacred depth.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): That being said, if you're like, no, I do want another tape tight container like sacred depths. There are bonuses in the program for you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So number one, you get to continue to have access to our community calls twice a month.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): so you can always hop on, either get inspiration from blueprinting or the marketing teaching that I do, and ask me any questions that you want on anything.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Another bonus in the program is a couple weeks after each
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): retreat that we have each intensive. If you want.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): we have an integration session where we come together as a group.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): For 90 min we talk about how the techniques have been going. These integration sessions are really amazing, because everybody kind of brings
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): they're the different pieces. And then we get even deeper into the techniques.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm going to be doing a 5 session. Resistance archetype class for the public
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in the spring, where we go even deeper into the resistance archetypes. You'll get bonus access to that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm going to be doing in February, a training class just for inner circle clients on how to put together preview presentations for your marketing.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): You get access to that. I'm not even going to name all of the bonus things there's so many. And then, as I do things, you'll get access.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): numbers. So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the full training, I think, is priceless. The investment. The regular investment is $8,700.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): if you choose to step in by December fifteenth I'm honored to make it available for $1,700 off. so it would be 6,900 paid in full.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or a deposit now of $495, and then, if you're on a payment plan for safer depths.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): once you're done with that, then it's 13 monthly payments of 4, 95. So we can set that up. If that's how you want your payment plan to be. I trust you. We can work it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What else do I want you to know
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): a couple more things
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): first of all. If you so you have until December fifteenth
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): on that special rate. However, if you're just like
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): listening to all of this, you know, it's for you you've known about advanced. You've had your eye on it, whatever it is, and you're like, I know I'm in now. And Caitlin, can you just put the Pdf in the if you so, if you just know you're in now.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): If you register by tomorrow you get 2 special gifts from me. One is a one on one coaching session, a shadow call with me. You can use it at any point in the next year, when you're ready and we'll go deep into doing shadow work, one on one, or if you wanna use it as a business strategy session. However, you wanna use that time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And then also, if you sign up by tomorrow you'll get something special from me in the mail 2 magical gifts.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): That you will love.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Now, here's the thing about it. This is not to upset your urgent, your nervous system and put you into a spin of. I need to decide right now. Right? This is nice extra bonus. If you're ready, it helps me
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): not hold my breath and go to sleep tonight and tomorrow, knowing there are already people in. But if you need time, if you want to speak to Caitlin or inball to see if it's right for you. You have until the fifteenth
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): on the special rate.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Now, here is probably the most important thing
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): you are not signing up for, advanced
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): from a place of not good enough.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): You are already good enough. You were already good enough before you started sacred depths, and especially now through sacred depths.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): you you are whole and complete and incredible.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): all of it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The reason why you sign up for advance is because you want more.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and because you feel called to more.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And because you really desire this experience that I've described to you, you really want to walk this path.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and you want to introduce this path
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to your client. Your clients
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): you sign up because, like me, you're a lifelong learner.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and you're committed to continuing on that journey
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): right. So we are all good enough
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): completely.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And you know I can't promise you that this is the thing that's gonna have your business explode you onto the scene or make you millions right. Don't register for those reasons either.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But what I can promise you is that if you
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): decide that advanced is right for you, and you choose that path. You will experience the before and the after. That I mentioned earlier. You will have even more of yourself.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): You will find even more depth in your work, and you will be able to take
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): your clients to a whole new level.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So I will open up for QA in a second. But first, I just again really wanna thank you for being here for being the incredible person and leader that you already are for taking the time to see if this is right for you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I love you, no matter what.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and if it is right for you, I cannot tell you what an honor it would be for me to be able to share this work
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): with you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): anybody have any questions for me.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): You can just take yourself off mute, and ask, What do you need to know?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): No cues? Did I get it all done?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Alright
Sharon Terzza: happy to jump in with just one very practical one
Sharon Terzza: around the timings of the retreat, so would it be 120'clock. The St. For
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it's 1111 to 6 Eastern. I try to hit as many time zones as I can like. Well, but of course I can't, all of them. So what I found is 11 is not
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): too early for West posters here but Europe, some of the European people they do end up missing like the last hour, and it's all good. They come back to the recording. You can still come the next day. Some are stay till the end, but we have a lot of European people, and it's like I. The way I do it is that you can drop off if you really need to, that last hour.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm sorry if you're all the way across the world. There are also people in New Zealand and Australia who just wake up in the middle of the night.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I know that what I've shared. I've given you so much information. It's a lot to process, and you'll look at the at the brochure. But also I do want us to just stay on the line. If you have time, because I feel like there are questions feel free to ask me anything.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Dawn.
Dawn Urquhart: Hi, there! Thank you. I have a technical question, too, about the live in person. Retreat.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Gabriel.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm so glad you're asking. I forgot to mention the logistics. Those are important, so I try to keep it as easy and also as cost effective as possible.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So we meet at a hotel, and I get a special, almost most people decide to stay in the hotel. Some people do. Airbnb's close by, but I secure a special rate at the hotel. Also a lot of people choose to to partner up, and we can help you, partner up. If you wanna share hotel rooms. The hotel provides breakfast.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I provide lunch.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and there is are both supermarkets as well as restaurants within walking distance for dinner. So you don't need any car whatsoever. And everything is kind of located right there.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah, I'm glad you asked. I meant to share that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What else can I answer for you? I'll be sending you the brochure. You'll get a recording also of this call, but probably like both Sharon and Don asked. There are probably some other things. Yeah, Don alright. I have one.
Dawn Urquhart: The
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the integration sessions, the 90 min. When when do those happen? They're they're Mondays from
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): 12 to 1 30 Eastern usually, and they usually month in about 2 or 3 weeks more, like 3 weeks after each intensive.
Dawn Urquhart: So kind of in between the 2 month break. Okay, yeah, you're welcome. I saw a question about oh, the dates in the chat got answered, Okay, great.
jodigolda: Okay, I'm I'm just out of the bath. So I turn my camera off. But this is yeah, and I am interested. And I'm also curious. And yeah, I'm just curious, John, is this the program that you would recommend as next
after sacred death?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah. So I would recommend it as next. If what I have shared is calling
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to you. So if if you're like, yes, I want to go into these deeper, somatic, advanced techniques. I want to go on this shadow journey, then it is the next step for sure.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I wouldn't recommend it like for everybody in all situations. But if if it's speaking to you, and you want to be able to do this work with clients as well as for yourself, then then this is it
jodigolda: great? Does that answer your question? Yeah, totally. Thank you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay. Good. I'm glad Mika is asking
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Are there any ways to make up for the in-person retreat? I'm glad you're asking that, mika. So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I don't.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I don't wanna promise this because I don't know
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): but I will say this
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Oh, so when I first started at some point in advance. We did. The shadow retreats online because of covid.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): It is so much better in person over the last few years. There are a couple of people who have had to miss the in person retreat because of travel.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I will at some point do a virtual shadow retreat
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): where like, if you really really need to miss the in person, you can come. I can't promise exactly when it's gonna be, and I don't want it, that to encourage anyone to not come to the in person, because the in person is so good.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): so at the first moment that I do a shadow virtual retreat.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): If you happened to needed to miss the in person in advance, you will be the first person invited, and you will get a gift spot there.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): but really just come to Charlotte if you can, because it really is that good
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): right now, Jessica, Jessica's asking when the next cohort will happen. So this one is starting in April right now. Probably it won't be, for if not 12, if not a full year, then you know at least another 9 months. So it would. It would be a while.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I don't know exactly, but I, for sure, at least once a year.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Who else? What other questions, and of course set up a time to speak with Caitlin or Invol as well. But while while we're here and you have me anything else that you want to ask, or if you're like, even if you think it's a personal thing for you. But you want to ask me about it, please do.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Oh, Sue just signed up soupy. Yay, I'm so excited.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah. And now I can sleep well tonight. So thank you. Cause I know first registration has happened. Thank you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Anyone else have any questions for me. Anything that you need.
Jennifer: Do I have a question?
Jennifer: Yeah.
Jennifer: I'm hanging upside down right now. So I have a I have a question about sacred depth, actually. And II feel really called to advance. So you can.
Jennifer: you know. rest assured there, but
Jennifer: with sacred depths do we still get access to the content? Once it's done, you have it, for I always say you have it for life, or until I don't have
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): a member center anymore, which I hope for it to be not for a very, very long time to come, and even then I'll let you know beforehand, so that you can secure everything. But that is yours.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for as as for life, you have all of that
Jennifer: awesome and in terms of all the virtual retreats, for advanced
Jennifer: sounds like those are all recorded. If for some reason we missed.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that's right, everything virtual is recorded. So either if you miss parts, or if you want to go back.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): you have it all there for you. Okay? Alright. Great thanks.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah. Done.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And then, Maria, I'll get to your cue also.
Dawn Urquhart: Hi! I was curious about the
Dawn Urquhart: like the integration and the partners, the accountability partners
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): like, do you help facilitate that? Or there are small groups similar to sacred depths. Or is it a different format? It's it's a little bit different. It's a little the same and a little different. So first you get partnered up in the retreats themselves, and each retreat
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): at least want once, if not twice.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): you're practicing a technique. So a a for a lot of people, that's enough by way of practice with people, you know. And then they go out. But for some people they also want to continue
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): doing more practice. And so
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): we help partner you up.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And then, you know, you can practice, and those we choose. For some people. It's like some techniques. They're good after a retreat, and they don't wanna do more practice. And then other techniques. They want more practice. And then, you know, they kind of ask in the Facebook group. So there's lots of different ways that we do the practice.
Dawn Urquhart: Great. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. Good question.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So Maria is asking about, are there any other next steps?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that's that's a good question.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I wish I want to answer with certainty, and I can't, and I'll tell you what. So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I ha! There is another program that is currently in place.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Some of you may have heard of it called embody that is
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): a way of lightly reviewing sacred depths. Concepts.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I am still
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): deciding if I'm going to offer embody again next year.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): If I do.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and you're in advanced. you get that whole entire program
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): as a bonus. So you you have access to all of that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'll know
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): by middle to end of January what I'm doing with embody, and if it's continuing, then I'll share all that information
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): with all of you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So I wish II knew today, and then I you know I could tell you, but I don't just yet.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And then some of you are in life changing courses. I'll be offering that again next year.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Anything else?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): No? Okay.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Well, again, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I also. I'm sure you all could tell when I was putting together the words for this session
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it wasn't just about to share with advanced, but also to to teach a little bit about shadow just a little bit. So I hope that you all, if nothing else, are leaving with inspiration around, just claiming all of who you are. That is my stealth mission really, in all the work that we do. And again, just thank you for being you and for being here.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm sending so much love you can reach out to me. You can set up a a time to talk to Caitlin or in ball. Get all of your questions answered
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): so much love.