Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Welcome.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): welcome, welcome, everyone.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and give us a moment.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): so
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): before we jump into
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): our work for today a couple of
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): reminders.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The first is this
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Thursday. At one Caitlin is gonna be holding space for our small group discussions.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So many of those discussions have been amazing. It's opportunity to go deeper into what we're looking at in our training calls. There are case studies to discuss and kind of picking apart the details and getting to the layers. So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): if you have been coming to the small group discussions, yay, I hope you'll be there this week if you haven't. But you've kind of been curious, and you just didn't have the time yet.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Speaking of time, which is what we're going to be looking at today. Drop in you you can still jump in. And it's just
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it's a really nice opportunity to have more space to discuss everything that we're looking at. So that's happening on Thursday.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And then I wanted to remind you, all
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): this isn't for everybody. But you know, throughout the program we have twice a month community QA. Calls where you can come there pretty much every other Monday where you can come and ask me
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): any question that you want about anything, almost anything.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And people come forward and they ask questions about client case studies about what's happening in their group programs. People come forward and ask questions. To get some coaching on inner pieces. Inner blocks.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): People come forward and ask questions about business pieces and marketing pieces and pricing pieces and messaging pieces. So it is. Those calls are just dripping with
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): not only support, but roles of wisdom. And even if you are not the person in that moment asking a question getting coach, you know, or that I'm brainstorming with you. There's so much information and inspiration that gets shared to help you continue going so
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): like I said, those calls aren't for everyone. They're they're not officially, part of sacred depth. But that being said, I just wanna remind you that they're there for you, and you still have a couple of months to take advantage of them. If you've been wanting to ask me question more questions. If you've been wanting business inspiration, or some business
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): support as well. We always spend the first half hour of those calls, either blueprinting action plans for the month, so that you kind of have that dedicated space for that, or doing a little bit of a marketing, writing type of either training or actual. Get it done time to do a little bit of writing.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So those are there for you and our next community. Q. And a call is this coming? Monday, December fourth.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): 12 Pm. Eastern, and then, of course, the last thing I want to mention I've been mentioning it the last couple of classes. We don't have
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): a live training call next week, although part 2 of this time module will be dropped
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in your member center. But we do. During this regularly scheduled time next Tuesday, from 12 to one Eastern have a next steps call so for those of you that have been wanting to learn about how we can continue our work together. We're almost at the end of sacred death.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): You know. I'll be sharing all about that that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): with all of that before we jump into looking at the topic of time, I'd love to invite everybody to take a moment and write down one celebration
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): so easy to forget to celebrate, especially when things seem shitty. But there's always something to celebrate, to acknowledge, inner or outer. What's one thing
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that's been that's gone. Well.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that you feel proud of
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that you want to celebrate.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and then bonus points.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I mean, there's not really points, but pretend bonus points. If what you wrote down is to related to something that we're learning here. Or if you want to write down a second thing, a celebration that is specifically related
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to the work that we're doing in sacred depths.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): either something for yourself or maybe something you've brought to your client work or your partner coaching work or your groups.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What's something specifically
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): relating to you as a practitioner that you wanna celebrate
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and please please share in the chat.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I want to see. What are you celebrating.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and we also have time for one or 2 voice-to-voice shares as well. I'd love to hear someone's voice.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Jodi is gonna work with Marcy on the applied depth team.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm really excited for you, too, Golda called you Jodi Golda.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Who else?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What do you want to celebrate?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Please share
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): anyone else sharing
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Susan.
Susan: Sure, if you want to voice or type share. But
Susan: I'm doing. I was hired by the group that I got certified for for alcohol coaching, and I'm doing some group coaching with them. And I'm really using
Susan: everything I've learned in sacred depths and holding, I feel like a really
Susan: really
Susan: better container than I have had in the past. I have worked for them before. And you know, really going deeper with the members. And I'm really getting rave reviews from the members like they're like, you're my favorite like and coming to my calls. And I really feel like it's because of this, save container that I'm really holding for them and
Susan: and I'm just loving that and kind of just.
Susan: you know, I'm doing like kind of what you shared about just loving them every interaction, doing my little prayer time beforehand. And really,
Susan: you know, keeping like pre-framing. You know that it's okay to be okay and okay, not to be okay. And just so, I'm just really celebrating that that has been such a great experience for me and and a good experience for them. And that's what it's really about, you know. So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): thank you so much. I'm so happy to hear it. And I'm celebrating with you, Susan. It just sounds incredible, and from what you're describing, I can feel how you're holding just that tight and beautiful container for people to feel loved and for people to feel open and vulnerable and engaged. So well done. Yay.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the Great
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and Sue Bee in the chat is celebrating how much more deeply you're helping your clients. Yes, and how appreciative they are. That's that's always the the kind of
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): bonus prize when we serve our clients more deeply. I'm so happy to hear that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So let's talk about
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): time this module.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Oh, let me see, there's one more hold on. I like to read the celebrations. There's one more in the chat.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Maria passed her Kitchie gong certification, woo, woo, woo. and it relates to sacred depth because you were avoiding it, and procrastin because of an old identity. Yes, yes, so wonderful
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): gender fear work last night. I hope you all are using the the fear techniques, the rewiring techniques, everything that we've been looking at also in your own practices.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Beautiful?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay? So this module, which is a 2 session module our live call today, and then a recorded training that you'll get in your member center. That's that's part 2. It's all about time. And I call it move with the flow of time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Our session today.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): We're gonna as we always do when we look at a topic. First, we're gonna kind of get to the foundational pieces of time and how human beings approach time
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and relate to time. We're gonna look at inner pieces today when it comes to the ideas and concepts of time
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in the recording, in the training that you'll get next week. We're gonna move all of this learning into some outer pieces where I'm share specific
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): outer exercises that you can
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): introduced to clients and yourself to help get more organized, and in the flow of time
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): time is.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or can be, one of the most important issues that comes up when we are supporting our client, because if time isn't working well for a client.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it can become an obstacle to their progress.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): It can become an obstacle to them, feeling the way that they want to feel about themselves, about their lives.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): When time is it working? Well, it can become an obstacle for our client to feel like they're experiencing and living the values that they want to live
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in their lives, whether the that value is freedom or spaciousness or happiness, or whatever it is.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it's important, you know, a lot of times we jump to. Okay, let's just let's help you get organized around your time right like you. This that which is great. There's there's books and books and books and exercises and worksheets, and you know, like planners, like so much out there about
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the outer aspects of time, how to get more organized. And I love that. I mean, I'm a Virgo. I love organization. I love all of. You know I'm a big blueprin.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I love all of that. I'm so into my schedule. But all that being said, as you probably know.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): none of that stuff
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): really works unless there's also an aligned inner orientation
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): towards time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Those are all great tools. If there is an aligned relationship
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): with time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): there's so
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): okay, let's even just first take a a step back for a moment on all of this, and I wanna invite you to
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): jot down some ways that time shows up as a
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I don't. How do I call it? Like a kind of an issue? It shows up as an obstacle or an issue for you and
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I want to give you some examples first. So it's almost like I want to invite you to make a list of what's not working for you when it comes to time, or what you're tolerating
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): because of time. So, for example, maybe you don't have as much spaciousness as you would like.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): maybe because of time and other things. And all of it right? Almost always time and other things. Your self care practice. Has gotten thrown out the window right? Maybe you're not meditating as much as you would like to.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Maybe, for you issues with time shows up is you're constantly showing up late for a thing.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and then people get upset at you. I show up on time for all things work.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): but most things personal a little not so good. My kids get angry at me sometimes.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Maybe time is not working for you, and it's showing up as you're not creating what you want in your life or in your work.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Maybe you are working way later every day.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Then you want to be working.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Maybe
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): time shows up for you is you actually
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): have too much free time, but you don't. It's hard to use it, and then nothing gets done.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Maybe you have anxiety
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): about time running out.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So what are some of the ways for you, and please share in the chat.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What are some of the ways issues with time is showing up for you. You're tolerating.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or it's not working for you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): It's good to share examples, not only so that we can recognize others inside of ourselves, but so that we can, as we're working with our clients, we can kind of hear into it
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for Jennifer over planning schedule. Then, not having the time to do all of the things that you want to do, and then you end up exhausted. Yep, and then not doing most of the things
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): so there could be some outer pieces there for Jennifer like when when you plan giving more time for each thing, I was like to give contingency time right? But there could be also some inner pieces.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Going on with that as well.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Susan has anxiety around time, but it's been the thing that pushes me to do more, and then you do too much, and then you don't get enough sleep or self care suffers. Yeah, not that aligned
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): goal that can feel overwhelmed by time planning with it not sure how long something might take?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yep.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): juniper ends up, feeling for low hang, reaching for low hanging fruit, just to feel productive.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): but never ends up creating space for bigger visions.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Just just want some more of it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Katherine feels like you have too much or not enough time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Kristen. Yeah, I was gonna bring up the neuro divergent thing. And I had a feeling you would have some things to say on that, too, Kristen. I'm so glad you're bringing it into the conversation. Kristen has Tim blindness due to Adhd. Hard to qui keep track of time when you're in hyper focus. Yeah.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): yep. And then things suffer. Blow things off
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for Jen, and you have a fair amount of time. But a lot of big things are going on, and you find yourself, not using your time well and escaping. Yeah.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for any fluctuation between. Okay, with time passing by. Yup, okay, these are all
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): great and really important. So of course. sometimes
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the time thing is actually just a cover or a distraction for something else, right? Like a fear of doing this thing and so run out of time for it. But
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): other times, other times, or in other scenarios.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): there's also a lot to be said about our relation. If we're struggling with time. There's something to be said about our relationship
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): with time
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and most people. I. This is a kind of a big, sweeping statement. So check it out and see if it feels like truth for yourself. I believe that most people in our culture and in our society, because of the ways that we've been acculturated and the messaging that has seeped in. I believe that most of us
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): have a misaligned relationship with time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): The one of the main reasons why we want to work on that relationship with time and bring it into alignment
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): is because
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): how we experience time
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): is how we spend our lives.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): how we experience. Time is how we experience our lives.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah, I wanna kinda wanna let that land for a moment. I'm gonna say it again. How we experience time is how we experience our lives
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and how we experience time
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): has everything to do with what we believe about time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): how we experience time
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): has everything to do with what we believe about it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So I'll give you a moment.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Well, actually
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): do this first.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): there's a lot of beliefs about time out there.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Some of them have to do with us personally. some of them are more universal belief
about time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So, for example. I'm prone to wasting time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): others have more time than me.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Time isn't on my side.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Life goes by too quickly.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I always have to catch up with time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Take
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): a few moments right now and
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): explore for yourselves what your relationship with time is, and what are some of the beliefs
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that are embedded in that relationship? So first take a moment and write out, what's your relationship with time? Some of you already began to do this.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): When I asked about, you know where time issues are showing up. But what is your relationship
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): with time?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Maybe see time as Father Time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What does that mean?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): It's time, your friend, is it your enemy.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): is it? An annoying thing in your life? What is that relationship that you have with it?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Do you see it as an ally?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Do you see it as part of you separate from you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): explore how you relate to it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Is it an oppressor?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Is it a partner?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): How do you relate to it currently.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And then you can also start to add in some notes on your beliefs about time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What do you believe about time?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Take another moment with that, and I
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): love to hear some shares what's coming through. But I love Maria's writing in the chat.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I see time as fluid and expandable. There's linear time, cyclical time and quantum time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I simply have to skillfully align with the appropriate time for this circumstance. It's so beautiful and so powerful. And, Maria, I'm wondering you might be just
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): so I don't know what the word is evolved when it comes to this. Ii know you believe these are beliefs about time, and I'm wondering if this happens for you practically to or there's sometimes some deeper, unhelpful beliefs that rise to the surface as you're moving through time.
Maria Chowdhury: Well, sure, in facilitation, where I'm constantly taking a group, creating a container of time and taking them through an experience that expands outside of time.
Maria Chowdhury: So they have this transformational experience.
Maria Chowdhury: and then they get cohered and then returned back into this time so that they're integrated. And then, when our session is over, they can go into their next
Maria Chowdhury: session, their next thing. So that's a practice. But I have a tendency not now in this day, because it's a skill that I'm cultivating. But if I didn't cultivate the skill, I would absolutely be late and run over time. Yeah.
Maria Chowdhury: I live in a liquid time. So that's that's the thing about being present is being present in the moment I'm with you.
Maria Chowdhury: And so our conversation is done when it's done, but not when the clock says. So. That's the biggest challenge that I face as a facilitator is being fully present and allowing enough time for this spaciousness for this transformation to happen.
Maria Chowdhury: and for their integration to happen
Maria Chowdhury: within linear time, even though I'm working with quantum time that's contained in something. So it's a skill that I'm practicing.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I would say, that's my number one skill that I'm practicing more so than moving energy or listening. It's that it's how to be in these different times at the same time. And then you're working with people in different time. Zones.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Golda.
jodigolda: Okay, so I think I'm still unpacking this for myself and it.
jodigolda: II have a high need for time. Integrity
jodigolda: in in terms of like be like being on time being in containers. We're facilitators on time. So much love, Maria, but
jodigolda: a date. If a date is gonna pick me up and he says he's gonna be, you know, at a specific time like I. And it's it's I can feel where my nervous system gets really activated.
jodigolda: And so I think what's coming to me, although I don't know that this was
jodigolda: actually like a a
jodigolda: a programming that I got directly from my parents. But it feels like time is money like there's some like there's a very strong value that I hold around my time, and so client is late like it. But it's
jodigolda: it's definitely like I said. I feel it in my nervous system, and it feels like a like a light trauma. There's something there. So yeah, I'm glad this is rising up to the surface, cause it feels like there, there's something there that's really important. And I'm also glad that you're sharing this one time is money, because that it is a big one for a lot of people in this culture. It's definitely one that I know you're saying you're not sure I know, for me was pounded
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): into me, and because of that it has created. And this is something I've been working on for a long time to unwind out of. But it's created this like
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): every time every bit of time needs to be used. So so it's not so much the being on time, part for me. But the way it gets expressed for me need to use every bit of time in such productive ways. Right? Because time is money.
jodigolda: Yeah, so yeah, that. And another layer. It feels like it's like a level of respect like that. Somebody respects me if they are, you know, showing up on time, or and if they're not, then they don't.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So it's like, I said, there's still there's a lot to. There's there's pieces there. Good. Yeah. And that respect piece, too. Right? It it's and how we're we. Sometimes these things can also show up.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): As I said earlier, I show up late for my kids sometimes right? The kid that never got picked up on time. Then what are some of the beliefs that come there and then how does that impact
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): good?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Let's see, Katie in the chat is saying habitually, I feel like a total contradiction with time. I love and want a lot of space and time to do things, but then I feel like I need to fill it up with small tasks for fear of not using it wisely. It's yeah. I'm so glad you're speaking to that, Katie. You're not the only one. It's right like
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it's almost like the Holy Grail. Let me have open time to have spaciousness, and, you know, just be at ease, and then it. When we create that for ourselves so often, because there's still this underlying beliefs. About time we try to fill it up, we do the things. Let me cross off the things on the list that need to get done, or whatever it is.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): That juniper you're already going where I'm going in a little bit. You guys are also smarty pants, Juniper saying I noticed a lot of overlap with money. Yep, we're gonna talk about that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I Katherine, saying I wouldn't even know what to do with it. If I had it, it would be wasted right? That's another. That's another big belief for a lot of people. I'm wasting time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Right? Yes.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): okay. I'm gonna could add another piece or layer to this, as we're looking at these
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): beliefs and what I'm about to say next. You know, I've taught this many, many, many times, and this part this particular piece
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for some people. When I share it, light bulbs go off, and it's like.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and it really resonates. And then for other people. They're like, now that doesn't. I don't really get that. So you know you, if this might be
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): incredible kind of insight for you or not at all. It's fine, either way, but I'm just gonna toss it in case it sparks something for someone.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Sometimes
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): our belief
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): about either the universe.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): our own deserving or authority figures
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): get projected onto what we believe about time or how we feel
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): about time. I'm gonna say that again. And then I'm gonna give some examples. Sometimes our beliefs, either about the universe
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or our own deserving, or or how we relate to authority figures gets projected onto our relationship with time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So, for example, if we feel like time is in control of us.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that might be directly from how we relate to an authority figure, or how we relate to God
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or the universe?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): if we have a belief that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): time is cruel to us right, or that we have to fight against time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): That again, that might be related to a belief about an authority, figure the universe what we deserve, and it gets projected onto this kind of big screen of time. If we believe that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in general, if we believe that life is unfair, God is unfair. It's that God is better for some people and worse for others. We might be prone to believe that other people get to have more time than we do.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So take a moment with that again. It may not resonate for you, but I'm just kind of throwing it out there. Time is such a
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): vast concept that, as I said earlier, is so intricately related to how we experience our lives and how we experience ourselves that we take things from other areas of our lives beliefs, relationships. And we can project them onto time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that spark anything for anyone
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): anyone want to share on that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Danielle?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Or maybe your hand was raised from before. I didn't see. But either way, go ahead.
Danielle: Hi, yeah. I was surprised when we were journaling a bit about some shame and grief coming up.
Danielle: and so that feels really interesting to me because it is connected to this sense of like, oh, you know, it's the nuance of the truth. But there it is passing. I mean, you could use different language. But we're all in this in this experience. And also there's a more abundant way of interacting with it. And I think I like I. Oliver Berkman wrote a book about time recently in the last couple of years, and
Danielle: it's the truth of like. Yes.
Danielle: seeing as limited. Can
Danielle: I think someone shared about this before like
Danielle: fear, or seen something as scarce can be a motivator can be a good motivator for a while. It's just what's the price you're paying there? And then are you gonna burn out from that? And I'm looking back and thinking, Oh, yeah, this stuff that's coming up like feeling like it's slipping away and then looking backwards and having more insight now, and being like, I wish I would have
Danielle: well, that time could have been spent differently. And so I what's coming to me is that it's like. yes, you could connect any of that to other other things in my life like you're talking about these particular things like your view of the universe and
Danielle: authority figures. But also I love that you're taking the time to slow down and look at our perception of time itself, because it almost feels like an invisible lens. That's oh, now I can see how that's just compounding on that other stuff. But without having the language around this, I wouldn't have thought of that. Yeah, thank you for all of that. Yeah, it's like, it's the thing that's always there, as you say, the invisible lens or the thing that's with us. But we don't
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it because it's so integrated because it is how we experience ourselves in our lives. We don't necessarily
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): take the time to separate it out to see what that filter, or that lens is, and it is so important to do. Could you share the name of that author in the chat for those of us? Take a look at the book. Thanks.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Jen.
Jennifer Rose Gens: yeah, I had a
Jennifer Rose Gens: II was journaling, like, you know. As
Jennifer Rose Gens: for your journaling question, and I said, I often. Oftentimes they don't feel like I have enough. Am I not enough? Are we one in the same time?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): That's great.
Jennifer Rose Gens: And yet, like
Jennifer Rose Gens: I also relate a lot to Maria and and like, do have these different perspectives of time. I'm sure we we all do, especially yeah. I mean, it's just like that expanding and contraction of the universe consistently. And then here we are in this ever unfolding of it all. And
Jennifer Rose Gens: yeah, it's interesting. I kind of got like
Jennifer Rose Gens: a little like maybe gently spooked by time last night and thinking about this group program, I wanna launch. And then I was just like
Jennifer Rose Gens: holy shit. It's almost December, and I wanted to do a thing for the New Year, and I was just like, Oh. I'm like going to miss the boat again.
Jennifer Rose Gens: and I was just like then this kind of other feeling kept was just like, well, whatever it's not that big of a deal cause I'm still gonna do the thing. I know that. but it is there also. Is this like, don't miss the boat like, don't miss the the wave. So
Jennifer Rose Gens: yeah, it makes sense that we would have a lot of.
Jennifer Rose Gens: I don't know messiness with this topic, cause it's there's so many strings to pull on.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. And the idea, I think, is not
Jennifer Rose Gens: to just
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): relate in one way right like it doesn't matter that that didn't happen, cause there's an abundance of time, and it'll happen later, like that is beautiful for some moments, and then for other moments. It's like, Nope, right? So. But this is all about but Ali, becoming even more aligned
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in terms of our relationship with time.
Jennifer Rose Gens: There is one other piece, too. It's so yeah, amazing that we're having this conversation. Jay, I was thinking about. I'm I'm having a lot of transition in my life right now. And I was thinking about Vipassana. If any of anyone here has done that. It's
Jennifer Rose Gens: like 11 or 14 day silent Buddhist meditation and
Jennifer Rose Gens: talk about understanding time and like having a different
Jennifer Rose Gens: understanding. And it's I was just like. Could I do that right now? Go into the woods and just be silent, for, you know.
Jennifer Rose Gens: like almost 2 weeks. And so much stuff comes up when we're just being
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): yeah. And so
Jennifer Rose Gens: and a lot of perspective. Yeah.
Jennifer Rose Gens: thank you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yes. And actually, with Jenna is just sharing. This is related, but not related, but feels important. It just kind of sparked for me
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): something that I wanted to
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): share at some point today, which is also
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): just to say that technology. And I think social media in particular has had a real impact in terms of how we all experience time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So something to think about there as well.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Alright!
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What's what are one or 2 things now that you've kind of looked at? Maybe some unhelpful beliefs about time. What are one or 2 things that you would like to believe about time. What are.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What's a more aligned belief around time that you'd like to move towards for yourself.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah, Jodi, we're gonna I'm calling you Jodi Golda. We're gonna talk about filters, too, because that's it's important. And privileges come into play also.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So take one more moment with that. If you want to share in the chat, please do. What's a more aligned belief
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that you would like to move towards or remember more, even if you already have it as a belief. But you'd like to kind of have it more easily accessible for yourself in in the moments
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for Jen. There's plenty of it. It's okay, and actually necessary to slow down beautiful for Susan. I'm capable of changing my relationship with time. I can make time, my friend and ally. Imagine, if we all believe that I can make time, my friend and my ally.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for Gen. M. There's enough time I can receive
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and play with the time that I have, I can allow time. These are also beautiful
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for Lara.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Even when I'm late I still get to be on time. Beautiful for Mika. Things happen at the right time always.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I love all of these. Okay. so now that we've kind of had this exploration of all of this.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What are some tools? Inner tools? Again, we'll get to the outer tools in the recording next week. But what are some inner tools that we can use to support ourselves and support our clients.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): In terms of relationship with time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): as we go into them just to this is important to say, even though I think probably all of you know.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): shifting relationship with time, like with most things, but
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): particularly with time, is not a once and done
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): it. It really takes coming back to it to doing the work and doing the work. And again, that's because
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the issues, the the messaging, the beliefs around time are so deeply embedded into our thinking patterns, into our culture, into our sense of self, into our orientation, to life, into what we think is expected of it. They're so baked into patriarchal structures, institutional structures, right? And so it's a, it's a. It's an unfair
olden
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): over time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay, so
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): what are some things to think about in terms of tools number one, as we already know.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): belief, work, awareness, belief, work.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): fear, work. Right? So we've already learned
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): so many tools when it comes to fear. When it comes to beliefs, you know, when it comes to resistance, we can apply any of those wheel of self sabotage. We can apply any of those when we're working with ourselves, or a client
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): comes to time. Do a Byf with a fear, a befriend your fear with a fear around time. Do a re wiring technique with one of the beliefs that you identified today draw out a wheel of self sabotage. You can also always with clients, ask some of the questions I asked you today, what's your relationship with time? What are some of the things you believe
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): about time, etc., right? So co-creating. And, as we know, just as a first step Co. Creating awareness around the fears and around the beliefs.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): big first step, and then we have these other tools that we've already learned.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): where we can go deeper. I will say every now and again.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): when you're working with a client on time, particularly if they haven't introduced it themselves. But as you're listening to them, you see, like Oh, there's maybe some misaligned beliefs here, or fears
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): every now and again bringing up the topic of time can
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): cause a lot of resistance at first on behalf of the client.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And again, that's because beliefs about time are at the core of our beliefs about ourselves and the universe
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and life. Right? So there, there can sometimes be an initial resistance to start to think about it differently
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): as you go to co-create awareness on fears, on beliefs around time. As Jodi said earlier a few minutes ago in the chat. You want to check your own filters.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): You want to check your privilege as well
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): right? Because
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): your life circumstances may be such that actually, you can create a lot more time for yourself as an example.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): whereas maybe someone with not the same privileges that you have.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): There, you're saying like, Oh, there's a belief there that she doesn't have any more time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But actually, that's just your filter. Because of that person's situation. They don't right. And there's still work that you can do on time there like to just have a different relationship
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to the time that there is available or whatever it is. But I just point this out. As with all things, we don't want to bypass because we're not checking filters or privilege. Does that make sense?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay? So that's number one, right? Awareness, belief, work, fear, work.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): etc.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Let me pause there.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Thoughts. What's sparking questions on that?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I think, okay, good. And those are pretty clear. Okay. Another thing to think about
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): is to cultivate, support your client or yourself, to cultivate trust
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): with time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and make better friends with time. So this is also related to many things we've already looked at.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Instead of doing a befriend. Your fear where you look at a fear. somatically or otherwise, when it comes to time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): when you approaching it this way might be that you lead a client to anthrop or polymorphize time. Right? You bring time down as an archetypal energy, or something that the client feels inside of themselves, and then have them dialog
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): with time itself.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): have them engage with time itself, have them feel
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): time somatically.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): help them receive
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): higher wisdom from time itself.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and be in better relationship. Right? So, in other words, make time an entity.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): an energy, a personality.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Once you kind of establish this in a session. It might be useful for a client to have a practice of journaling with time
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): after that right? Something like that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): pause on that thoughts or questions.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): on cultivating trust, and making friends with time itself.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Step
Jennifer Rose Gens: I have brought up.
Jennifer Rose Gens: One of my clients to you in the past.
Jennifer Rose Gens: The mama with 3 kids
Jennifer Rose Gens: who
Jennifer Rose Gens: is a very busy husband. She is
Jennifer Rose Gens: nursing right now, so she's like sleep deprived, and
Jennifer Rose Gens: her and I still have to have a conversation
Jennifer Rose Gens: because she actually had to cancel our last session
Jennifer Rose Gens: because of time. And I get that number one plays into this right like awareness.
Jennifer Rose Gens: but a part of me wants to kind of bring this up for her in like the you know, the softer approach of like practice journaling and
Jennifer Rose Gens: versus like, Oh, well, we all have the same amount of time that wouldn't land. Well.
Jennifer Rose Gens: yeah, I just wanted to hear if you had any thoughts
Jennifer Rose Gens: with somebody who is sleep deprived essentially right. So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): a couple of things on this. So first of all, is, you know, you have brought this up before, and as we've discussed, and I'm trying to check my filters on this because I remember what that sleep deprivation was like. I mean, I couldn't do personal work for a while. During that period. It just was a would have been a no go
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for me. Right? So that's I think that's the first conversation to have with her, to really see. You know what what is within the realm of possibility during this period right now? Does it make sense
Jennifer Rose Gens: to continue or to freeze. Right? So that's number one.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): If
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): from that conversation it's like she's no I wanna you know, there are things I wanna work on, etc. Then one place you might wanna go with her. And this is important for everybody. This is this falls into the belief work that I just spoke about in the fear work.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): You might want to use some of our myth of perfection tools with her
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): right? So it is like you're saying. It is true that she has a limited amount of time
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): because of all the things that are going on in her life right now right
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and so there can't be a perfection of all the time in the world to do all the things right. But in an imperfect way, what is possible. Right? So, as an example, you could do, even though, nevertheless, around time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the even though, is the honoring, the limit, the limits right? Even though I'm really tired and so busy with the kids in the house.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Nevertheless, I believe it's possible for me to have 5 min to myself in the morning, even if the baby cries. even though I'm so tired and there's so much to be done, and my my time is limited.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Nevertheless. I could ask my husband once a week
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for an extra hour
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): while he's with the kids right? So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): move out of the binary, maybe move out of the binary, thinking on that. That could be one way doing some of the belief like the rewiring work could be another way. Is that helpful?
Jennifer Rose Gens: Yeah. I have her meditating on when she goes to the bathroom. Yeah, I think the perfectionist is is definitely there. Control. Okay? Cool. Thank you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah. You're welcome. Yeah, we definitely as humans can apply that myth of perfection piece to issues on time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Lara sake in the chat as a mother of 6, my fears around time and sleep. We're definitely
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): related. I had to get down to what I really wanted more time and sleep.
Yes.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Danielle.
Danielle: just one more voice of
Danielle: just affirming.
Danielle: have 3 children and cause sleeping in the time. But I and keep thinking about it's a relationship. So it's not just this, like expanding, expanding view of time itself, which is such a huge part of it
Danielle: for me! I could see that part of the work is the building. Trust within myself that I can then project forward. But, like I,
Danielle: I am not going to just resign myself. That's gonna change. as I trust more as I cultivate that trust. Then, of course, there's going to be a softening. And okay, I'm not gonna just give up today and think that I can't do XY and Z. I'm gonna try and relate with the time differently. But I can see how it's both
Danielle: both in the relationship, are changing. And I love that. What Lara just said, and some one else about
Danielle: coming back into that place, of while recognizing reality or the constraint in a way like.
Danielle: I actually find that to be empowering if you can land back into what your choices are from this place like
that has helped me so much, ignoring the fact that there are constraints
Danielle: honestly just breeds more self shame and guilty, and like avoidance. But like actually when I look at it, and maybe both choices are
Danielle: not. What I would want literally was talking about this in my coaching session yesterday as a client. that that was the myth of perfection thing going on. I was like this is not looking like I want it to look. And so then I'm finding myself just opting out.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): That's right. And also the other thing that you're talking about here is honoring what is right which we looked at in our creating awareness skills. It is so important
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to honor what is to acknowledge where the limits are without making them like a pathology or a sentence towards a destiny right? But for exactly what Danielle is talking about, so that, like so our nervous systems can relax into what is true, and then the next, and we can have more self love and compassion, and
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): all of this, and then the next set of choices. Empowered choices can arise from all of that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Good.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay, let's keep on going.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): okay, let's see what you all think about. This one
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): make requests of time and treat time with respect.
So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): there are a couple of things that I mean by this and this, this idea, or this tool can look many different ways, but the idea behind it is when we are in relationship with something like time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Part of an ideal relationship with something else is to both. Treat that thing with respect
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): as well as in a relationship. You make requests. So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'll give you 2 examples of what I mean by this in terms of making requests of time. That could look something like
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): what happens during a get it done. Session like when I hold, get it done. Sessions for groups. We are making a request of that 60 or 90 min of time, right that that time serve and support us to get this piece of curriculum done to get this piece of marketing done to get the files organized, whatever it is, and
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in a get it done session. It's it's like a sacred container, right? And for those of you that have been in a get it done. Session with me or someone on my team. We don't do them in sacred depths.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But in a in other containers, you know, we start that 60 or 90 min in a Sacred Way. We come into that time in as if it were a sacred container.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): We set intentions right, which is like making a request. What is it that I want to accomplish. Why do I want to accomplish this? Right? We we might even set a prayer, whatever it is, and then we're very conscious and intentional during that time. We're making the request
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and we're using it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah, Kristen is saying in the chat, making rituals with time to set up the containers exactly
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): right when I'm just like willy nilly doing this and then doing that like. Yes, sometimes I do get the thing a a lot of the things done, but I feel anxious in it. Right? I feel like I'm going to this thing and that thing whatever. But when I'm making the request, when I'm being conscious with it when I'm setting the container, when I'm approaching it. As like, this is wholly. This is a holy experience within this container, and this is what I want to get done.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I am more likely to get more done, and also experience the time as I get it done in a much more positive way.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Does that make sense?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay, I'll give you another example
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): of this.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And I know this is like so oh, probably everybody here knows this has done this. I'm sure many of you do this as a practice way more than I do.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): when we take 5 min
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): right? And we say. And again, this is about creating a container. These 5 min
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): are about me
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and pure presence
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): right? And then, maybe during those 5 min we slow down.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): We consciously step out of the fast paced rhythm of time that maybe the rest of our day is going through. We move away from the computer and the phone and the screen right? And then maybe we if it makes sense, we close our eyes and we just focus on our bodies
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): right and just watching the breath.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and the idea is to make a request of time, to slow it down a little bit right.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and to help us experience it as more easeful and more flowing and slower.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What happens after we do that for those of you that do it
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): regularly as a meditation practice, or every now and again, at least for a little bit afterwards, we feel the impact
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): of that right.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): That's another example of
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): making requests of time, while also
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): respecting time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Jen.
Jennifer Rose Gens: I have 2 thoughts. One is
Jennifer Rose Gens: Buvaneshwari is the goddess. Believe the Hindu goddess of space and time.
Jennifer Rose Gens: and she was brought into my field around 2,019, and he's been just such an ally for me.
Jennifer Rose Gens: Just even in recognizing like this happened on Sunday night. I was hanging out with some some folks, and we're having so much fun. And time was just going so quick.
Jennifer Rose Gens: and there's a big clock that we could all see, and we were having a pool party, and we could see this big clock, and it was like suddenly like. I feel like every time I just blinked. It was a half an hour later, and I just like laughed at Buffin Ashwari, cause she seems like she was just speeding up time and just wanted to mention this this goddess for everyone.
Jennifer Rose Gens: The second thing that came up is, oh, sorry. Did you want to say
what I'm good?
Jennifer Rose Gens: Something I was just thinking about, and you might not want to talk about this right now. But like.
Jennifer Rose Gens: I'm just curious how you thought
Jennifer Rose Gens: how cause we did. We talked about visioning and strategy. And here we are talking about time. And I was just curious, like, how did you choose to create?
Jennifer Rose Gens: It's it's own session about time, cause it, is it to me? It has so much to do with strategy. And yet it is so different. And I was just curious about your choices there.
Jennifer Rose Gens: Yeah, it's fascinating.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah. I mean, it's absolutely related. And in our strategizing module we look at one of the time tools which is blueprinting. So yeah, you're totally on something. It's right. And we look at natural rhythms and natural paces and strategizing, which is also related to how we experience time, you know, in some ways. But in terms of my choice
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I like, I said this. These last kind of 2 months of sacred depths is bonus like going above and beyond. And so I just wanted to deconstruct this piece a little bit more. Yeah, I really love it going from being in the mystery to talking about time. And
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): yes, so that is yep, that's it. Exactly. Thank you. Yes, it is on purpose after the mystery.
Jennifer Rose Gens: and it brings in that container, too. Very cool, Joanna.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay, a couple more tools that I wanna share with you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): receiving work. So I saw in the chat at least once when someone was talking about aligned beliefs around time, the the word receive
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and juniper made the connection between time and money
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and what I want to toss to all of you to
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): see if it. This resonates for you
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or not is that at the core of time as well as money.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): We can even add love to this too. But to keep things simple at the core of
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): time and money is the ability to receive
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): at the core of time and money is the ability to receive
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): right? Not always in all situations. Again, privileges, filters, etc.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): We have to take that into account.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): but both time and money.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): when we are in aligned relationship, I would venture to say, and see if this ring is true for you is that we feel we're receiving it right? And we're so receiving enough of it.
we're we're receiving what we need
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): got it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And what I want to suggest is that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in our culture
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the art of receiving the aligned art of receiving has been lost.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and I won't get into all of the different ways. It's been lost, you know. I'll just say, like.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): in some ways it's been lost because of capitalism. It's like this idea that some people get to receive and other people don't get to receive or patriarchy right? So that's one way that the steeper art of receiving has been lost.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and then another. You know, for example ways that this art of receiving has been lost is that because of beliefs
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): around it. So in this culture, oftentimes. maybe, we believe that receiving makes us weak.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or maybe we believe that we don't deserve to breathe.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Or maybe we believe that there's something wrong with us if we can't do it on our own.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And so.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): when we can work with ourselves and with our clients on, not only shifting beliefs around receiving, but what I have found is like opening up our bodies and our energy to be more open
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to receiving.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): we can start to experience time, and even sometimes money a little bit differently.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Is this making sense what I'm saying?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So let me ask you this
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): briefly, what are some of your beliefs around receiving.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): or your ability to receive?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So, either on receiving in general or your ability to receive.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): And, by the way, this comes back to what IA little bit to what I was sharing earlier around connection with the universe, too.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): For Katherine. The cost is high, right? It's like, take so much in order to receive. And and there's gonna be cost to it
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for Susan. It feels safer to give. Yep, but you're ready to evolve that. Happy to hear that I feel safer in giving, too. So I get that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Who else? What's coming up for you.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Maria? Saying a healthy belief around receiving is about reciprocal flow of being in the circuitry of love.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I love that. Yes.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for Juniper is saying, it connects to Worth. Am I worthy of receiving this without doing anything in exchange just for being who I am.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): what might be different
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): if you were to believe that, how might you experience time or might be differently?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Susan says the word that came up around time was Wrangle.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and oh, I just missed it, and I think I have the same belief around money and receiving. I have to wrangle whatever I get.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Think about how much more effort goes into wrangling right? And I'm not suggesting, by the way, that we just like all sit back all day long and open up to receive, although that would be very nice, and I do think that we should spend some of our time doing that like as a practice.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): But with that energetic feeling, right? We're just kind of like the opposite of wrangle. Then what actions are we able to take in order to receive what we want, and what is the feeling of those actions coming from that? So, being open
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and ready to receive? Because we know we deserve it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'd love to hear. A voice or 2, and their sweat! What's sparking for you around this conversation of receiving and time
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): and money?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What's feeling important here, what are you seeing?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Who wants to share?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Don't be shy.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Jen. I'm gonna hold on you for a moment.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): You like there's a share another share in here. Anyone want to share Katherine.
Katherine: hey? Sorry. Could not find my reaction. Button. I I was actually just struck by what you said around, you know, it's not like receiving. We just like lay back and just like, receive all the time. And
Katherine: I've actually been sort of cultivating this practice which has been really magical of.
Katherine: say, just being like 100 and receivership at all time. And just in this, like full care and constant contact with the universe and a lot of times what I'm receiving is like the energy to take care of my daughter, or the energy to go like do work or the motivation for how like idea, for how to solve a problem or something. So it's not just
Katherine: reclining with peeled grapes. But it's completely altered. like even my answers to this like, what's my idea of time? It's like they're sort of these distant things like it. It. It has kind of altered my
Katherine: feeling of like worth and safety in the world to just like be
Katherine: receiving. And it's kind of
Katherine: it's so antithetical to the way I was raised, cause, you know, thinking about this, it's just like it's a slippery slope. You're either all giving or all receiving. So if you take a little bit like you're going to be a lazy, worthless buck pretty soon, you know, like the just, it's so dangerous to be passive or relax. They're receiving so II love all this topic.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah, thank you. Thank you for that share. II get chills. If, as you're saying, and it, it feels so important and like you're putting an underline on all of this, and I love that you use the word practice right? It is a practice to relearn that art of receiving and so if this is sparking for anyone, I wanna encourage you to
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): have a practice right work with your clients on a practice. Do it for yourself first. But it can be one like what Catherine just shared that kind of practice. It can be a practice of feeling yourself opening up
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): to receive, and feeling that deserve deserving of the receiving. If you
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): II like to get massages, if that's something that you like, and you're able to do. One of my practices when I get a massage is that II don't just kinda like lay there, but I use it as receiving time, and I really set an intention to open up, to receive the healing from
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that touch, to take it in deeply, not just for that moment, right. But as the practice and
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): another way that another thing that can help practice receiving is actually a gratitude practice.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Because the more that we notice all the ways that actually we're receiving so much throughout the day.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Then the more it can open us up to those beliefs and those new, energetic patterns right? Like I'm receiving sunlight right now.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): That's coming right through the window. I'm so grateful for that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): There's heat in my house. I'm receiving that right. I'm so grateful for that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): hate filling my car up with gas. My husband went and did it for me, as he always does. I receive that, and I feel so grateful for that right? Noticing those things as we move throughout our day doesn't have to be like I didn't get a million dollars, so I didn't receive. I'm not grateful right.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): All the things that we're receiving. It helps if we can. And then, if we can feel that gratitude for what we already are receiving in our body.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): It helps that practice
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): of receiving
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): that make sense.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Sharon's. So let's see.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Danielle's with me on the massages, and Sharon is saying, I accept gifts of whatever and say if it feels uncomfortable and I accept and I receive it anyway. Yes, I was quick to say, that's okay. You don't need to do that now.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Lara.
Lara Wilde: I have kind of a funny story. When I this is years ago I was a home schooler, and, you know, going to conferences. And
Lara Wilde: and this mom shares this story about how she
Lara Wilde: I don't know, maybe was praying. And she got this inspiration that she needed to go to this thrift store, and there would be this book there.
Lara Wilde: and it would be what she needed.
Lara Wilde: And so she goes there, and she finds this book. and she said it was so profound, and it was this great experience, and I was so jealous. It's like, Oh, that never happens to me.
Lara Wilde: and every time I go to the Thrift store, you know I would like. Look at the books, and like which one of these books is, is for me and I just wanted to have that experience that she had. And it's so funny to me now, because I realize
Lara Wilde: all the books are for me, like every book I pick up that has something for me. Every person I talk to has something for me, every street I walk down, every every billing to receive it.
Lara Wilde: Yeah, it's all for me. And yeah, my thinking was so limited back then that I someone had to tell me, and it had to be. This one thing you know, or money has to come from this one place, or
Lara Wilde: it was very, very limiting.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah, I love that. Thank you for sharing that so great.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay, one more
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): little tool to think about.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Shift the language that you use around time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): the language that we use dictates our beliefs.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Think about what kind of language you generally use around time. Do say, I only have an hour.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Or could you say this relates to receiving. I've been gifted with an hour for this. It's it's an hour both ways. But then, how we experience it is so different.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I get a day for a vacation versus I've created a day for vacation.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Do you use terms like I'm running out of time. I lost time on that
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): catching up on time. Right? And how can how can you shift some of that and then start to consciously use
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): different language in order to impact the beliefs? And how you're experiencing time.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Okay?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Any thoughts on that or anything that wants to be set on that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yeah, people were wasting my time. My time is being wasted right?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What?
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): So you know, if if this one is resonating for you to start, I'd say, start tracking your language around time over the next week or 2.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): What are some of the things you say? Maybe, that you don't even realize that you say that are actually impacting your ability to experience time in the ways that you want and to receive it.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Alright.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): speaking of time, we still have 7 min left so exciting, so take a moment. I'd love for you to write down. What are some of your hopefully, you're taking away a lot from our time together today. But what are some of the biggies for you that you're taking
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): some of the keys
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Catherine's reclaiming the art of receiving. Yeah, I'd love to hear some voice to voice shares. What are you taking for yourself from our time today? Or what questions do you have
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): like to share? What are you taking.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Sharon?
Sharon Terzza: The thing for me is that's really impacting. Is that
Sharon Terzza: done? A lot of work on time for myself in different ways.
Sharon Terzza: But I love that. It's that interwoven. It's the overlapping part. It's not just time as a standalone.
Sharon Terzza: It's all those other things about perfectionism not being good enough if I give more. and the master comes in. And and so that whole picture of
Sharon Terzza: time being completely, not necessarily, but being so interdependent with other beliefs.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yes, and our sense of self. Yeah.
Sharon Terzza: yeah, absolutely. And yeah, that's really sparking all sorts of things off me, particularly
Sharon Terzza: as I'm late at the moment, because I have a commitments at 5 30. And am I going to be having my dinner in the middle of this. Somebody else is cooking, and
Sharon Terzza: and it's such a gift today to be able to sit. I was expecting to have a shout for dinner, and it hasn't happened. I'm like.
Sharon Terzza: so good phone somewhere else. I'm not eating. I'm not rushing. I'm not doing 3 things at once.
Sharon Terzza: So yeah, that's
really sparking off lots of little bits for me.
Sharon Terzza: Yeah. And I'm much better at this. And the menopause has really taught me to pause and take a step back and review life
Sharon Terzza: in a different way, because I don't have the energy that I used to have. Yeah, so yeah, lots of gifts in that.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Yes, I love that. I'm so glad you're gonna explore more deeply. I can feel there's there's some next to see pieces in there.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Good juniper is gonna go through the same journaling rituals used for money and do them with time. Yes, that's such a great idea
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for Jen, and how my resistance will use time as part of how to resist, how the language I use deeply impacts, how I feel about the time that I have beautiful
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Lara setting intentions with time, even if it's only 5 min. Miracles can happen in every moment. It's so true.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Golda's gonna get curious about languaging around time for Katie. Your relationship to time is directly related to how much these you have in your life. Yes.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): tracking language to good
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): for, Susan, you're gonna use the breath practice to slow down and cultivate receiving. Yes, I hope some of you work on the receiving piece as well, and then befriend
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): time. Good
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Kristin's gonna cultivate or receiving practice, and see how you're receiving through your days and then work with the language. Good. beautiful! I'm really excited for all of you to play with this and be with this and to see how it evolves. Remember what I said earlier. It's not a once and done ever, but especially when it comes to time, because all of this is so deeply embedded in us.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): Commit to it. See what happens if you do.
Joanna Lindenbaum (she/her): I'm gonna send you all a lot of love, and I'll see you soon. Bye.